Guild Wars 2

I know this may be a hassle to ask about venom builds since the majority of thieves being played rely on controlling your opponent or go stealth and backstab them fast, but i am very curious as to how a venom build would fare in WvW. As far as i can tell (and done, which is little) it’s about outlasting your opponent while the condis does its work, and move in to reapply or reinforce the poisons for the final kill. Anyone willing to experiment/build a Venom build?

Hello

This is what i’ve been rolling since a while after december the 10th.

Started with venom share, eventually dropped that for better survival.

If you’re interested try adapting it for WvW purpose ?

To sum up it revolves around might stacking, heavy leech while CC your opponent and press him into your smoke field, using HS>backstab at the last second of the field>stealth. If you like using every single skill of a weapon set then this is for you too.

Most problematic issue i’d see in a WvW environment would be no shortbow, i can see where it’d hurt your mobility.

build is here

Hmm impressive! As for the WvW adaptation for it, I’m sorta thinking of doing D/D – P/D. While the PvP build you presented looks really good on 1v1, it sorta makes me wonder of 1vX in which case altering the ultility slot trading out Devourer venom for Skale venom since the opponent(s) will be very mobile, D/D’s CnD to go stealth stack might then some more with other venoms, and close in with rapid fire from p/d stealth, which shuold be able to apply all the stacked venoms should they hit.
Very good build to start from!

IMHO venom builds are our support build. Are you planning on solo roaming or running with a group? It’s rare to see a venom roamer… I think maybe Wild Bill was the last?

If solo, I wouldn’t slot Skelk, and if running with a group, I’d slot Venemous Aura in SA. SB is also great for group play as a venom thief.

Well yeah. planning to go on roaming.

30/x/30/x/x

I like the extra 10 in Acrobatics some folks for for Trickery. I believe CS is generally avoided. YMMV.

In DA: Venomous Strength, Quick Venoms, and Residual Venom.

In SA: Shadow’s Embrace, Leeching Venoms and Venomous Aura if running Thieves Guild for the elite, otherwise BV for elite and and Shadow’s Rejuvenation. This can also vary if you’re running with a group or not. BV and Lyssa runs are good here.

For utilities I like Spider just because of the number of times it hits. Lots of folks use Devourer for the immobilize and that it can be stacked, I also like Skale better than Ice Drake. Often run Shadow Refuge as well, so just have 2 venoms, Spider and Devourer.

Again, do hope you’re roaming with a group. With a skilled 5 man havoc and 1 venom share with Devourer it’s comedy gold. Running solo like this is risky.

Spider venom: Only use is for healing venoms because it has the highest number of strikes. Otherwise, not all that great even with venom share.

Skale Venom: It’s ok but more so for condi builds and even then its a long cooldown (or heavy investment) to have this apply any real pressure.

Ice drake venom: ….. aweful skill. Devourer venom by far beats this.

Devourer Venom: Good venom skill, especially with venom share. It’s got the potential to make alt+target very strong in keeping someone locked down.

Basilik Venom: Good skill for runes like lyssa (or any rune set that proc’s off elite skill use), and very good in duels. As far as groups go, it doesn’t stack so keep that in mind.

Skelk Venom: Alright in groups but requires an investment to make it plausible. Try it if its’ you’re thing, it has potential.