LynxGuide(PvP)Build:AssassinPetrification

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Posted by: moony.5780

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Hi guys

I wanna show u my build im useing for pvp. It might seems noobish while looking to it only. Try it out in real, its soo much fun ! Right used it hits like a truck ;D

Also its a nice alternative for the existing metas, which can easily compete with them in right hands so lets the buildvarity life long ! ;D

1. Introduction
1.2 Requirements

2. The build itself

3. How to play it + pro and cons

1. Introduction

The builds main concern is to kill someone really fast and preferable from far distance. Also what is very important about it..is that its nearly a pure teamfight build, especially for defending points with someone else. (nearly every other profession will give a good teammate, but there r some better ones didnt try it out yet with someone, except a minionmaster.)((4 minions can get the venom..that really hit hard^^, but let ur mind be opened for other combinations))

Its very close to be a zerk, and got only few skills to escape (compared to the d/p thief) so i would advice to hide behind ur allies (not just running behind them..but really hide) and use the advantage of good spots for range attacks.

Its a venom build mainly..but most conditions r there to prevent the enemie to get ride of the main condition “immobilize”. Let the opponent not be able to move and suffer from ur team

1.2 Requirements:

In order to be most effective u need to have a good overview on the fight, to find the best place to escape and support ur allies (and not to die in bursts from ranger and other thiefs). Also its needed to act fast when a point is going to be attacked by someone. In addition u need to notice fast which enemie is having a very low defence in order to kill that one fast, or at least immo it and let ur teammates do the rest. And maybe most important requirement..be able to survive with only 2 escape skills on utility and heal x).
For best results get at least 1 or 2 teammates around u who kows ur build

2. The build

There r many versions from it..always with a small difference. But thats my favorite one:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fZAQRAqa8Yl0Mp7pNNxrJ8PNRMRs1H37/9a3sEA-TpBEwAGOBA23fAxBBAwRAIbZACPAAA

Rune:

Its my favorite one bcs it gives 15% more boon duration..which supports the mightstacking..and it gives 10% more condition duration which supports the venoms. + 25% speedbuff which is good for helping out an attacked point and beeing back to the main fight fast.

alternative set:

sword/dagger seems for me the best, since u can get inv faster than on d/p (which is needed bcs its a zerk build with less escape skills). Also u can use nr 2 for extra immobilize. And if more than 2 enemies r rezzing up someone..u can use the basillisk venom and most of the rezzing opponent. (sure here u need to consider that they might be immun to everything..but better try it than watching them rezzing up…but u need to see the situation and act according to it). The sword got more aoe than pistols…so attacking all of them to lower everyones health is good…1 guy get rezzed but 3 others half dead

If someone prefer d/p more than sw/d just take it^^ but for me it always work best to have a dagger in offhand and a melee weapon. (so get get inv for killing someone in downstate and if someone use reflect or in a situation where a melee weapon seems better)

Also to concentrate more on pure dmg the strenght rune is a good option, since that build can stack might up to 16-18 alone and 6 for a whole group. But is not good in running between the 2 secured points and killing a zerker fast when u see him/her running to a point.

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3. How to play + pros and cons

Sooo^^ Some tips and tricks r also in the other points, so check them out if u didnt (my pros and cons r explained in the text )

As i already said..its a teamfighter, so try not to be alone if the situation allows it. The only ~90%-95% win chance on 1vs1 with this build is on enemies with low defence and health with an secret assassiantion attack.

Secret assassination attack (pistols):

Make shadow refuge where ur enemie dont see it and applie ur venoms…u can stack up 16-18 might with this (if u wait untill only 1-2 sec r left for stealth). Then u attack ur target with nr 1 while beeing in a good position. (a good position means that u have enough space to escape with the heal or/and a place which is difficult to reach for the enemie within 2 sec, calculated without considering the immobilize). This cause a decent bleed dmg. Also ur target is stoned for 3 sec and immo for 6 sec. Usually this attack applie so many conditions that the main condition “Immobilize” can have its effect. Then u make 1 time nr 3. Depened on the situation u keep ur pistols on or switch to the melee weapon.

If u r with a teammate just jump to the next battle where u r needed but applie the venoms again on ur ally.(check if ur ally gona attack the downed enemie or use a finisher…bcs if ur teammate need to attack..the venom will be wasted..and u need wait 30 sec to give it to another ally). If u r alone get invisible and kill ur enemie or let it die with conditions slowly for a longer waiting time for respawn (but take care that there r no other enemie around who could rez up, also take care of hidden enemies…so its sometimes better kill than wait and making a 3vs2 or 2vs1 out of it).

In this build the Shadow refuge is used to escape or to prepare for a strong burst dmg..but as many thiefs already know also for rezzing teammates. Since this is a teamfight build dont overuse it for ur own 10 stacks might.

protecting a point:

For protecting an often attacked point stay next to ur allies for the venom share then get to a good position (see up + in this kind of fight a good position can also be hidding just in the big fight where enemies cant see good bcs much is going on. But take care of aoe or beeing targeted.)
Attack the enemie (use target! or attack an already targeted enemie) while its not on the point (but not soo faraway..must be in easy rage for ur allies). Now there r mainly 2 cases which happen now. Either the enemie dont have enough stunbreaker and condition remover and keep standing there untill he/she is dead. Or they use up most of their condition remover and stunbreaker and will be extra weakend for ur allies useing condis and stuns (take care or long lasting condition remover and long stability or beeing long time immun to all). If its the 2nd case..run away lil x) to be save and ready for a 2nd venom attack, if u applied the venom more than 15 sec ago it will take less than 15 sec to recharge again. (but run near ur allies who can protect u by attacking the targeted enemie, if the enemie follows u..and dont run into a spot where enemies can easily kill u and noone can rez u).

Sometimes the enemies come running 1 by 1 to the point beeing killed instantly. So consider that it might happen that they come with a zerg. Prepare for this case !

Let me sum up all with pros and cons
Cons:
- mostly bad in 1 vs 1 (especially bunker)
- u will go down fast if beeing targeted and having no place to escape
- no stunbreaker, to dodge always in right time is needed
- some allies dont know what they should do when they r next to u and in worst case keep running from u while u apply the venom and let u alone on mid point after a successful start and run to far and u die bcs the 2nd wave of enemies comes quite fast or u need to abandon a point which could easily be protected if there would be at least 1 teammate.
- be ready for verbal abuse when u tell ur team u r on venom or support(thinking u r a tanky condi dealer), even u r very useful.

Pros:
- Killing an enemie in less than 1 sec
- best in protecting points with someone
- nice teamfights
- a looot of fun^^
- (many pros r for sure also in my post )

Thats it \(^.^)/
its mainly learning by doing(and try out new strategies)..and having a good team (which is unluckily rare in solo arena bcs its a rare build)
If u got more questions about it just tell me Im always open for questions or discusions (as long as its not insulting)

x Lynx Of The Desert or Moon Princess

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Posted by: Gagle Dan.6571

Gagle Dan.6571

Personal i just hate running p/p but aside from that for solo ques vs uncoordinated teams may work fine my main problem is the lack of a short bow which is the best weapon for any sort of competitive pvp play for thief the choking gas keeps people down and cluster bomb cleaves like no tomorrow in choking gas and without infiltrators arrow i think you would have a problem being able to support your team at almost every fight which is one of the massive advantages you have. I would recommend switching the fire and air sigils on one of the sets to maybe something like blood and generosity just so they don’t share cool downs. You don’t have any stun breakers but i don’t think you can drop anything without losing the effectiveness of the build so not much to do there. Looks decent if you enjoy it play it but it seems to run a little more like a power ranger style build then the traditional thief decaper and burster.

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Posted by: moony.5780

moony.5780

Ty for ur answer and also the tip
for me i love the double pistol more^^ bcs..nr1 makes bleeding, nr2 makes immo, nr3 can burst, nr4 to interrupt, nr5 to make a succefull finisher(if no enemie knockback from behind)
but everyone got a different playstyle and a mix of all is needed ^^
also..about the stunbreaker…i rarely have problems with it..bcs i can dodge quite good and i either got a talent for beeing nearly always in a good position against stuns or im just lucky x) but usually i would take at least 1..(ty will add that to the cons list !)

and y..its completly different playstyle than the normal thief builds..its no decaped at all actually..just rarely…it is like a power ranger build..but muuuch more teamplay and very dangerous bcs an enemie can easily be immobilized for 15 seconds

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oh now i know why i rarely have problems with hammer wars(or any other close stuns)….(if there is a teammate with me)..bcs i immobilize them its fun watching them not beeing able to move and useing all their skills

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^^ ^^