Guild Wars 2

Energy sigils on each weapon and riposting shadows. You can evade almost forever. Kinda disgusted actually.

Remember when S/D was considered op by the devs so they continuously nerfed it?

Well you can now get the exact same playstyle on steroids with heavy armor and high hp pool!

Yes, this is all very logical.

New professions will always be OP . in any game. Deal with it. And with gw2 balance time ,it will be OP for a long long time.

OP doesn’t bother me. It’s the fact that they nerfed the evades of S/D and then gave the same thing to another class.

Drennon.7190:

OP doesn’t bother me. It’s the fact that they nerfed the evades of S/D and then gave the same thing to another class.

Yeah, kind of like mesmer and stealth – bothers me too.

And probably some other spec will get ricochet like skill.

alchemyst.2165:

Remember when S/D was considered op by the devs so they continuously nerfed it?

Well you can now get the exact same playstyle on steroids with heavy armor and high hp pool!

Yes, this is all very logical.

The developers make me not want to even continue playing when things like this happen.

Thief doing too much burst from stealth? Okay, lets nerf them. Oh, lets also give the same class that was hurt by the burst the most the very same playstyle.

Thief evading too much? Okay, lets nerf them. Oh, let’s also give a heavy armor tier the same exact playstyle.

Thief stealth has no counterplay? Okay, lets give classes uncounterable ways of revealing them for stupid amounts of time.

I bet the thief elite spec is a disaster too. And if it isnt, it will be, because whenever people lose to the class with the lowest hit point pool in the game, it’s always ‘the class is broken’ and Anet devs generally half-listen by not only removing it from the class, but giving it to another class in some kind of twisted joke that implies they didn’t even think it was imbalanced in the first place.

We just get nerfed to pacify people because we generally just suck it up and try harder. Then when someone has a breakthrough and finds something effective, people flock back to the thief forums and whine about it until it’s gone too.

Azure The Heartless.3261:

alchemyst.2165:

Remember when S/D was considered op by the devs so they continuously nerfed it?

Well you can now get the exact same playstyle on steroids with heavy armor and high hp pool!

Yes, this is all very logical.

The developers make me not want to even continue playing when things like this happen.

Thief doing too much burst from stealth? Okay, lets nerf them. Oh, lets also give the same class that was hurt by the burst the most the very same playstyle.

Thief evading too much? Okay, lets nerf them. Oh, let’s also give a heavy armor tier the same exact playstyle.

Thief stealth has no counterplay? Okay, lets give classes uncounterable ways of revealing them for stupid amounts of time.

#TEEFstillOP

:/ Actually haven’t seen a nerf thread for a while now… wtf?

Is the HoT hype drawing away the attention…? Or is the HoT hype crash made people leave..?

Zero Day.2594:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

alchemyst.2165:

Remember when S/D was considered op by the devs so they continuously nerfed it?

Well you can now get the exact same playstyle on steroids with heavy armor and high hp pool!

Yes, this is all very logical.

The developers make me not want to even continue playing when things like this happen.

Thief doing too much burst from stealth? Okay, lets nerf them. Oh, lets also give the same class that was hurt by the burst the most the very same playstyle.

Thief evading too much? Okay, lets nerf them. Oh, let’s also give a heavy armor tier the same exact playstyle.

Thief stealth has no counterplay? Okay, lets give classes uncounterable ways of revealing them for stupid amounts of time.

#TEEFstillOP

:/ Actually haven’t seen a nerf thread for a while now… wtf?

Is the HoT hype drawing away the attention…? Or is the HoT hype crash made people leave..?

I feel like leaving because the one class that kept me awake on the pvp scene is being bullied by people who enjoy spoonfed dps output but can’t handle a class with 11-17khp. Pretty sure other people have left.

Right now im running crusader and runes of the fighter. People are complaining I’m too tanky. communities making me sick and jaded.

#NerfingGreninja

Zero Day.2594:

#TEEFstillOP

:/ Actually haven’t seen a nerf thread for a while now… wtf?

Mhm, I do wonder if mesmers are now getting all the stealth hate or if people just shut up because mesmer showed them that their whining can make things a lot worse.
I should hang around in other forums from time to time.

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Zero Day.2594:

#TEEFstillOP

:/ Actually haven’t seen a nerf thread for a while now… wtf?

Is the HoT hype drawing away the attention…? Or is the HoT hype crash made people leave..?

I feel like leaving because the one class that kept me awake on the pvp scene is being bullied by people who enjoy spoonfed dps output but can’t handle a class with 11-17khp. Pretty sure other people have left.

Right now im running crusader and runes of the fighter. People are complaining I’m too tanky. communities making me sick and jaded.

#NerfingGreninja

Yeah… I find that sometimes not reading forums/reddit for a game that I’m enjoying is the best thing… Ignorance is bliss, at least in this context.

I’m just waiting on their “Challenging Content”, which might actually end up what I want – that is Fissure of WoE (there’s been a data mined post a while back) – and the elite spec of the thief to decide whether I will be staying around or completely dropping this game (at least until the salt rubs off my skin and I’m less sour). And even then, I will be solo PvE’er most likely.

Zero Day.2594:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

alchemyst.2165:

Remember when S/D was considered op by the devs so they continuously nerfed it?

Well you can now get the exact same playstyle on steroids with heavy armor and high hp pool!

Yes, this is all very logical.

The developers make me not want to even continue playing when things like this happen.

Thief doing too much burst from stealth? Okay, lets nerf them. Oh, lets also give the same class that was hurt by the burst the most the very same playstyle.

Thief evading too much? Okay, lets nerf them. Oh, let’s also give a heavy armor tier the same exact playstyle.

Thief stealth has no counterplay? Okay, lets give classes uncounterable ways of revealing them for stupid amounts of time.

#TEEFstillOP

:/ Actually haven’t seen a nerf thread for a while now… wtf?

Is the HoT hype drawing away the attention…? Or is the HoT hype crash made people leave..?

It’s interesting now because there’s actually been a shift in opinion to thief being med-hard/hard to master.

Maugetarr.6823:

Zero Day.2594:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

alchemyst.2165:

Remember when S/D was considered op by the devs so they continuously nerfed it?

Well you can now get the exact same playstyle on steroids with heavy armor and high hp pool!

Yes, this is all very logical.

The developers make me not want to even continue playing when things like this happen.

Thief doing too much burst from stealth? Okay, lets nerf them. Oh, lets also give the same class that was hurt by the burst the most the very same playstyle.

Thief evading too much? Okay, lets nerf them. Oh, let’s also give a heavy armor tier the same exact playstyle.

Thief stealth has no counterplay? Okay, lets give classes uncounterable ways of revealing them for stupid amounts of time.

#TEEFstillOP

:/ Actually haven’t seen a nerf thread for a while now… wtf?

Is the HoT hype drawing away the attention…? Or is the HoT hype crash made people leave..?

It’s interesting now because there’s actually been a shift in opinion to thief being med-hard/hard to master.

That’s kind of funny. Wasn’t always like that though? Pretty sure what they mean to say that it’s harder to do the same “thing” compared to other classes, as opposed to having a higher skill cap (was always the case? no?)/ harder to master.

:D The class hasn’t been nerfed to kitten and is worthless, it’s just harder to master
Lol… harder to effectively do the same thing as other classes as opposed to mastering… mastering is a whole other issue.

Zero Day.2594:

Maugetarr.6823:

Zero Day.2594:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

alchemyst.2165:

Remember when S/D was considered op by the devs so they continuously nerfed it?

Well you can now get the exact same playstyle on steroids with heavy armor and high hp pool!

Yes, this is all very logical.

The developers make me not want to even continue playing when things like this happen.

Thief doing too much burst from stealth? Okay, lets nerf them. Oh, lets also give the same class that was hurt by the burst the most the very same playstyle.

Thief evading too much? Okay, lets nerf them. Oh, let’s also give a heavy armor tier the same exact playstyle.

Thief stealth has no counterplay? Okay, lets give classes uncounterable ways of revealing them for stupid amounts of time.

#TEEFstillOP

:/ Actually haven’t seen a nerf thread for a while now… wtf?

Is the HoT hype drawing away the attention…? Or is the HoT hype crash made people leave..?

It’s interesting now because there’s actually been a shift in opinion to thief being med-hard/hard to master.

That’s kind of funny. Wasn’t always like that though? Pretty sure what they mean to say that it’s harder to do the same “thing” compared to other classes, as opposed to having a higher skill cap (was always the case? no?)/ harder to master.

:D The class hasn’t been nerfed to kitten and is worthless, it’s just harder to master
Lol… harder to effectively do the same thing as other classes as opposed to mastering… mastering is a whole other issue.

Well, that wasn’t the concensus before. Now the only one they say is possibly too strong is D/P.

Maugetarr.6823:

Zero Day.2594:

Maugetarr.6823:

Zero Day.2594:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

alchemyst.2165:

Remember when S/D was considered op by the devs so they continuously nerfed it?

Well you can now get the exact same playstyle on steroids with heavy armor and high hp pool!

Yes, this is all very logical.

The developers make me not want to even continue playing when things like this happen.

Thief doing too much burst from stealth? Okay, lets nerf them. Oh, lets also give the same class that was hurt by the burst the most the very same playstyle.

Thief evading too much? Okay, lets nerf them. Oh, let’s also give a heavy armor tier the same exact playstyle.

Thief stealth has no counterplay? Okay, lets give classes uncounterable ways of revealing them for stupid amounts of time.

#TEEFstillOP

:/ Actually haven’t seen a nerf thread for a while now… wtf?

Is the HoT hype drawing away the attention…? Or is the HoT hype crash made people leave..?

It’s interesting now because there’s actually been a shift in opinion to thief being med-hard/hard to master.

That’s kind of funny. Wasn’t always like that though? Pretty sure what they mean to say that it’s harder to do the same “thing” compared to other classes, as opposed to having a higher skill cap (was always the case? no?)/ harder to master.

:D The class hasn’t been nerfed to kitten and is worthless, it’s just harder to master
Lol… harder to effectively do the same thing as other classes as opposed to mastering… mastering is a whole other issue.

Well, that wasn’t the concensus before. Now the only one they say is possibly too strong is D/P.

True.

Though I think they’re using the term wrong and are talking about something else entirely. (Only read a bit…)

The only ones that can really talk about what’s actually hard to master are those competing in tournaments or those pushing to that level of play (or theory crafters that test their theories – essentially those that are pushing the limits) – willing to bet that 90% of the posters on the forums are neither of those.

:P Plus I think the QQ’s will come flooding in with the reveal of the spec, regardless if it’s UP or OP – which we won’t know until there’s been some hands-on, which will probably cause a second flood.

tbh from personal experience, i feel like s/d > shiro; the energy costs are pretty big and revenant just lacks escape/survival tools like thief

i know s/d isn’t in great shape atm but it definitely can do more in bad situation where shiro just dies pretty fast

D/P thieves and mesmers both stealth way too much. this playstyle is boring and also annoying to play against. They both can easily stealth from out of your sight walk to you and then burst u, when you havent seen a sign of them. especially with shadows rejuvenationa and bbons from stealth they are super sustainy too.

Stealths should be a lot shorter

Kicker.8203:

D/P thieves and mesmers both stealth way too much. this playstyle is boring and also annoying to play against. They both can easily stealth from out of your sight walk to you and then burst u, when you havent seen a sign of them. especially with shadows rejuvenationa and bbons from stealth they are super sustainy too.

Stealths should be a lot shorter

How is this related?

You guys didnt played shiro dont you? Its totaly diferent than S/D, ofc he had evade + endu regen thats all you get close to s/d + its only evade backwards and it costs 35Energy which is A LOT, none of Rev weapon skills have evade nor godmode.
Other thing that is close to s/d is that if bursted it cant recorver and its kitten vs condis even with demon stance…

Mefiq.7039:

You guys didnt played shiro dont you? Its totaly diferent than S/D, ofc he had evade + endu regen thats all you get close to s/d + its only evade backwards and it costs 35Energy which is A LOT, none of Rev weapon skills have evade nor godmode.
….

Sorry, you lost all seriousness after that point.

We may not have god mode, but my keyboard does have a win button, between ctrl and alt.

@Zero Day
S/D- kittenton of evades + instant endu regen with signet + shadowsteps on demand

Shiro-kittenton of evades(if you dont plan to deal dmg you can always spam it, but guess what, after evade from his 1st utility he cant do kitten cuz u just burned whole energy to stunbreak/evade so go ahead and autoattack next 3 sec to get to the “healthy” lvls of energy) 0 Evade on dmg spell Quickness on demand pretty nicely working shadowstepps. BUT BUT BUT worst problem with shiro that S/D never had is that you cant do everything, If you need to evade you cant quickness, if you go 2x Dash you wont evade

Ofc Swords skills are flashy and look like S/Dance but still thier usage is soo diferent from flanking. S/D Could just always deal(not insane) dmg while evading enemies, when shiro can evade enemies or deal dmg(mostly die from trying)

Nah revenant doesn’t have a thief’s SB like weapon so it’s not really comparable even if they add evade to #3 of sword and energy seems pretty harsh especially since you can’t and shouldn’t camp shiro. Rev is better than last time but to me it’s just a gimmicky bunch of flashlights so far.

Jana.6831:

Zero Day.2594:

#TEEFstillOP

:/ Actually haven’t seen a nerf thread for a while now… wtf?

Mhm, I do wonder if mesmers are now getting all the stealth hate or if people just shut up because mesmer showed them that their whining can make things a lot worse.
I should hang around in other forums from time to time.

It’s starting…

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Chronomancer-will-get-permanent-invisibility/first

We will now have to share the delicious tears.

Zero Day.2594:

It’s starting…

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Chronomancer-will-get-permanent-invisibility/first

We will now have to share the delicious tears.