Guild Wars 2

Hi
Can anybody tell me which is the most effective thief pvp buildbeing used right now?
(please post it)
I noticed thiefs got nerfed recently so whats the most viable pvp build now
Is it the dual dagger thief and bow?

Thank You

there is not an most efective build
vs other thieves i prefer tanky build ( 30 sa trait /20 acrobatics) or condition build
vs mesmers /elementarists – burst is the only build that might have an chance, if you go tanky build , it will take forever
vs warriors tanky or condition build
vs guardians -tank build
vs engeniers burst build /condition build
vs necro’s condition removal build – with as much vitality as posible
vs rangers any build will work ^^

I think the question is impossible to answer without more information, and even then a lot of it comes down to personal preference more then one thing being specifically more effective then others.

Depends on your roll in your team. Play whatever is needed.
I personally find SB power build pretty annoying in 3v3 or larger scaled fights.
Condition thieves are pretty awesome in handicap fights.

ye i cant pick between backstab burst build or condition build

Pick whatever fits your playstyle most and what’s more benefitial for your team. If you lack direct dmg and if being a glass cannon is fun for you roll power build. If your team lacks condition dmg and if you like more survivability roll condition build.
There are always counter builds against any possible build anyway.

Any condition thief is stronger than BS burst any time of the day.BS burst is a bad build and its time more people realise this.You asked effectiveness.Whit condition thief you’re able to take even on multiple opponents at the same time and win.It might take longer of course but the results are better.As a BS thief you can only kill 1 at a time and only if he doesn’t know what he’s doing. If he countered your burst , you’re finished.Now BS is very succesful in WvW due to bad players but its realy not a good build.Now its all down to what you mean by effective.

NightyNight.1823:

Any condition thief is stronger than BS burst any time of the day.BS burst is a bad build and its time more people realise this.You asked effectiveness.Whit condition thief you’re able to take even on multiple opponents at the same time and win.It might take longer of course but the results are better.As a BS thief you can only kill 1 at a time and only if he doesn’t know what he’s doing. If he countered your burst , you’re finished.Now BS is very succesful in WvW due to bad players but its realy not a good build.Now its all down to what you mean by effective.

Burst build is harder to play (assuming your not talking jinzu build/play style). You need to land CnD and then you need to BS them in the back not the front.

It’s harder to do that then hit CnD, back off, spam the 1 key with your pistol…

I can take on multiple opponents in wvw and in spvp with my BS build. I am not jinzu burst. I don’t blow all my abilities in less than a second to win.

I do need to land CnD pretty much every time for it to be effective tho, just as any stealth build requires really.

I am talking about Glass Cannon BS Thief which is so easy to counter.Just like you said , if you miss CnD ,you’re in a lot more trouble compared to P/D .And P/D is not the only build for condition thief. You’d be surprised how well works whit D/D or whit Shortbow.
Its hard to keep on your opponent being so squishy , which is why BSérs needs to blow the cooldowns all in a burst , because they can’t outlast someone in a prelonged fight.Its practicaly imposible to stay on top of a skilled opponent.You have no stability , your only defence is stun break and stealth , which requires you to be right next to him.
Now I don’t know if you build a more tanky BS build , never tested , that because, BS doesn’t seem to me as a good strategy for long fights.I can’t see BS as a bully type build.

BS hard to play? Rofl? Yes, maybe harder than Haste 222..22 but seriously, S\D or P\D are on another level for both effectiveness and skills needed.. And forget to run full burst specs in tPvP…you’re just going to be facerolled over and over..i suggest to learn to play something good for both you and your team if you are planning something more that stomp nabs in hot join

recently in tpvp ive been playing condition builds, pistol/dagger, shortbow, my build is generally a roamer but i basically use conditions to GTFO people on the points, its one of those situations where alot of people dont run too much condition removal because they assume people wont be using it, the amount of bunker guardians who ive been able to take out fast because they got low hp good healing great defence and great condition removal over time.. but yeah.. my bleeds only last 4-5 seconds and i can do 20 stacks in about 5 seconds..

basically go invisible use shortbow poison field,caltrops on point.. use 2xdodge caltrops on them whilst invis, use sneak atk,

using caltrops and poison field or venoms etc whilst invisible will not break ur invisibility easy for me to suddently get like 15-20 stacks of bleed and poison on them pretty kitten fast. not to mension i can just re-stealth cure conditions, regen and keep the points, the guardians will occasionally knock you off points, but will get super annoyed ikitteneep cloak and daggering from there summoned hammer and just circle the points while invisble. anyways heres the build i currently use, its very good for group fights where u can put those conditions on multi enemys, but good for attrition vs, u cant really burst someone super fast but its ok anyways

the caltrops are a fairly large aoe bleed/cripple that keeps reappling for 14 seconds, the dodge caltrops are very small aoe u need to basically dodge on top of them, best used vs stationary targets and dont last aslong, but do 4-6 bleeds each and a short cripple.

i use bleed duration runes 3sets of 2 for 45% extra

http://www.gw2build.com/builds/simulator.php#1.7.6.10.13.13.29.33.11.33.154.169.173.174.178.9.2.6.0.0.0.0.0.0.486.488.481.497.503.0.513.517.0.0.0.30.20.20

i occasionally change my traits abit, shadows protector can work nice for the regens instead of master of deception, and shadows embrace for extra condition removal instead of blind on stealth. lots of good traits there!

Backstab build is not effective. Not at all, imo.

Try a P/D condition tank build. I can help you out with the actual build itself if you’re interested.