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Posted by: oEnvy.3064

oEnvy.3064

Shameless ad., watch me click skills.
Open to gameplay advice/critique lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pANPofcyxU

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Posted by: AikijinX.6258

AikijinX.6258

I don’t know why this hasn’t gotten any comments yet, So I’ll be the first.
Loved the music selection (The Weeknd) <333333
You’re definitely one of the better Thieves i’ve seen to make videos. Nice watching you fight some of those outnumbered. I look forward to more.
Some of your skill selection and timing were a little iffy, but not here to criticize, good video
- Beautiful Necro & Ranger 2v1 that was a highlight

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Posted by: Yamsandjams.3267

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Any chance on posting your build?

What’s the logic behind using scorpion wire in the condi build? Are you mainly just trying to score interrupts for the perplexity stacks?

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Posted by: RedSpectrum.1975

RedSpectrum.1975

Any chance on posting your build?

What’s the logic behind using scorpion wire in the condi build? Are you mainly just trying to score interrupts for the perplexity stacks?

If you notice he had superior sigil of blood (those rock pillars that bursted around him) he pulls them into the radius of them rocks and then switches weapons(another P/D) to get more bleed stacks on them, pretty innovative if you ask me

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Posted by: Yamsandjams.3267

Yamsandjams.3267

Any chance on posting your build?

What’s the logic behind using scorpion wire in the condi build? Are you mainly just trying to score interrupts for the perplexity stacks?

If you notice he had superior sigil of blood (those rock pillars that bursted around him) he pulls them into the radius of them rocks and then switches weapons(another P/D) to get more bleed stacks on them, pretty innovative if you ask me

Sigil of geomancy, I believe, but yes that’s actually a convenient way to set that up. I just wonder if it’s worth something like a blinding powder, especially since he’s going to be getting in close to land CnDs anyways.

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Posted by: RedSpectrum.1975

RedSpectrum.1975

Any chance on posting your build?

What’s the logic behind using scorpion wire in the condi build? Are you mainly just trying to score interrupts for the perplexity stacks?

If you notice he had superior sigil of blood (those rock pillars that bursted around him) he pulls them into the radius of them rocks and then switches weapons(another P/D) to get more bleed stacks on them, pretty innovative if you ask me

Sigil of geomancy, I believe, but yes that’s actually a convenient way to set that up. I just wonder if it’s worth something like a blinding powder, especially since he’s going to be getting in close to land CnDs anyways.

Geomancy yeah, was thinking about the blood it inflicts :/ He was probably just being innovative. Blinding powder would definitely be an alternative.

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Posted by: oEnvy.3064

oEnvy.3064

Thanks for not totally bashing me for advertising a video here! Most of these clips were recorded in the same night and it wasn’t my best game play. I can see the many mistakes I make in the video, especially the 3v1 P/D fight which was named sloppyplay3v1.avi. Also I am still learning the s/d spec.

Scorpion wire is just for perplexity stacks, as well as fighting d/p thieves (I can pull them out of smoke) as well as interrupting heal skills in general. Anything is viable in that utility slot honestly. (Signet of Shadows, Caltrops, Blinding Powder, Venoms, etc.)

Here are the builds I used:
http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?vYAQNAsYVl0Mp0pFOx7J8PNRw9wpJtpePI7YNrWBaC-z0CBYLCikFRkIAIVdIrJPRsKqIas6FYqSJV5KQaXweDKrkBwcMA-w
With precision stacks.
http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?vYAQRAqY6YlsMp0p1Ox7J0PNRw9wpJtpePK7YNrWBaC-zkCB4MDimkOQkHhOFiIaNTCssuIasKZAaGYaULq2jgRrOAACAzMQIgFrBA-w
With condi dmg stacks.

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Posted by: RedSpectrum.1975

RedSpectrum.1975

As for the OP itself, what defines a player isn’t how many mistakes you make, but rather how you learn from them and spring back from them. I wasn’t behind the keyboard so I don’t know the exact mistakes you made to a key. I only have a rough idea, for instance in the first clip idk if you purposely flanking strike’d inside the shadow refuge or not but it happened and you got revealed. Either way, despite the “mistakes” you made, you clearly corrected yourself rather quickly considering you lived to tell about it, and if the mistakes were as bad as you thought, you more than likely would have been on the ground far sooner since the class is not forgiving with mistakes.

I’m actually interested in the S/D build you used though. Arganthium made a build like it for PvP but instead of Shadow Arts, it goes full 30 in Acrobatics for more evades and more initiative regeneration. It’s really fun to play but it works for PvP since you don’t need to stealth nearly as much. So I actually give you some respect in that field too since Shadow Arts gives us everything except constant initiative regen (not counting infusion of shadow, that’s only when you stealth) so you have to work slightly harder to maintain initiative. I don’t blame you since condition clearing is a must.

As for the condi version, I don’t have too much to say, I personally don’t use P/D builds, although I may try out a power based one, Shadow Strike apparently hits rather kitten hard. Even still, you need to get close to at least Cloak and Dagger so there’s always the risk of being countered. Maintaining endurance for evades when needed is also a thing. As i said above I like how you also seemed to use S. Wire to set up your geomancy sigils.

All in all due to the lack of common underboob, this video is meh…….nah keep it up OP. Some builds may be common, but not the people using it, they all have their own flavor they add. But no seriously some underboob is indeed welcome >_>

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Posted by: Carpboy.7145

Carpboy.7145

This isn’t available to watch on mobile :’(


The Use of the Word ‘Cheese’
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Posted by: RedSpectrum.1975

RedSpectrum.1975

This isn’t available to watch on mobile :’(

Ill summarize it for you:
slash,slash,stab, flip slice, evasive healing backroll! slash, hilt bash, slash
“I could use some healing over here!”
evasive healing backroll!
slash, slash stealth, stealth, stealth slash, slice, slash with a slice
“Feedback Loop initiated”
Slash, slash, slash stab FINISH
Slice slice FINISH
clip 2
pew pew *stealth*pewpewpew
stab stealth
pewpewpew, pew pew pew
“My leg”
Hide in Shadows
pew pew, slice, pew pew
stab stealth pew pew pew
“Ha you’re going to have to hit much harder!”
“I’m bleeding!”
pew pew, “Get over here!” scorpion wire, stab FINI-
pew pew stealth pewpewpew, slice pewpewpew
“Could use some help over here!” FINI-…..FINISH
pew pew stealth pewpewpew
slice pew, pew, pew, stab pewpewpew FINISH

Clips 3 and 4 are similar, but I left out some major details in there I think, I’d say I did a pretty kitten good job though

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Posted by: oEnvy.3064

oEnvy.3064

Amazing summary, made me giggle

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Posted by: mango.9267

mango.9267

Any chance on posting your build?

What’s the logic behind using scorpion wire in the condi build? Are you mainly just trying to score interrupts for the perplexity stacks?

If you notice he had superior sigil of blood (those rock pillars that bursted around him) he pulls them into the radius of them rocks and then switches weapons(another P/D) to get more bleed stacks on them, pretty innovative if you ask me

Not only that. He’s running perplexity runes, and Scorpion Wire gives you a very short cd interrupt. Sleight of hand + Scorpion Wire gives him 2 interrupts every 20 seconds or so.

That said, I can’t get over how buggy the skill is. An anthill in your path? Too bad, obstructed.

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Posted by: Yamsandjams.3267

Yamsandjams.3267

Any chance on posting your build?

What’s the logic behind using scorpion wire in the condi build? Are you mainly just trying to score interrupts for the perplexity stacks?

If you notice he had superior sigil of blood (those rock pillars that bursted around him) he pulls them into the radius of them rocks and then switches weapons(another P/D) to get more bleed stacks on them, pretty innovative if you ask me

Not only that. He’s running perplexity runes, and Scorpion Wire gives you a very short cd interrupt. Sleight of hand + Scorpion Wire gives him 2 interrupts every 20 seconds or so.

That said, I can’t get over how buggy the skill is. An anthill in your path? Too bad, obstructed.

Or “out of range” when it’s completely in range.

At least it’s not as bad as magnetic grasp.

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Posted by: Prysin.8542

Prysin.8542

Beautiful Necro & Ranger 2v1 that was a highlight

The necro was doing quite well, the ranger had god awful timing and gear (that was pure zerker or celestial). Also, the way he/she built their toon just brought shame on the ranger community as a whole. Running Signet of Stone, means you should be running a signet build (or you are gimping yourself) and not using it when attacked and in a tight spot is simply poor play. If the ranger had stuck to the GS, it may have had a chance to land a lucky maul or used the block to knock you back and then they would have most likely ended the fight…. but ofc, had to switch to the LB….

@OP
But in general, that is some very good thief play. Nice timing and evades. Seeing as you play on TC, maybe we can team up. Been a long time since i went duo roaming.

@whatever anet-employee lurking on these forums
Still kittenes me off that you guys/gals hasn’t nerfed the shadowstep+stomp thing yet. It is beyond OP to be able to move out of range of any intercept. Stealth stomping is bad enough as is.

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Posted by: RedSpectrum.1975

RedSpectrum.1975

Beautiful Necro & Ranger 2v1 that was a highlight

The necro was doing quite well, the ranger had god awful timing and gear (that was pure zerker or celestial). Also, the way he/she built their toon just brought shame on the ranger community as a whole. Running Signet of Stone, means you should be running a signet build (or you are gimping yourself) and not using it when attacked and in a tight spot is simply poor play. If the ranger had stuck to the GS, it may have had a chance to land a lucky maul or used the block to knock you back and then they would have most likely ended the fight…. but ofc, had to switch to the LB….

@OP
But in general, that is some very good thief play. Nice timing and evades. Seeing as you play on TC, maybe we can team up. Been a long time since i went duo roaming.

@whatever anet-employee lurking on these forums
Still kittenes me off that you guys/gals hasn’t nerfed the shadowstep+stomp thing yet. It is beyond OP to be able to move out of range of any intercept. Stealth stomping is bad enough as is.

Ok so they nerf step stomping, the the only class we can’t stomp is elementalist. Step stomping is only done when revealed or when you lack blinds. Even stomping a thief is as easy as the push of a button

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Posted by: Prysin.8542

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Ok so they nerf step stomping, the the only class we can’t stomp is elementalist. Step stomping is only done when revealed or when you lack blinds. Even stomping a thief is as easy as the push of a button

Nobody can stomp ele. Well, they can, if they immobilizes them first, but their so quick to hit mist-form you rarely get to do that even if you know they gonna mist-form.
It is not about the stomping, it is about counter-play. There is none. You stealth, initiate stomp, shadowstep back, wait for animation, shadowsteps to target. In that time, you drop the enemies target, moves out of counter-play range, moves in and get 100% success-rate (unless your timing is off or skill-lag). Atleast when stealthed, enemies can in rare cases down you by spamming stones all over the place or fear you off. Everything should have some form of counterplay, no matter how lame or hard it is. Step-stomp prevents all counters, even the ones when you rely on others.

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Posted by: RedSpectrum.1975

RedSpectrum.1975

Ok so they nerf step stomping, the the only class we can’t stomp is elementalist. Step stomping is only done when revealed or when you lack blinds. Even stomping a thief is as easy as the push of a button

Nobody can stomp ele. Well, they can, if they immobilizes them first, but their so quick to hit mist-form you rarely get to do that even if you know they gonna mist-form.
It is not about the stomping, it is about counter-play. There is none. You stealth, initiate stomp, shadowstep back, wait for animation, shadowsteps to target. In that time, you drop the enemies target, moves out of counter-play range, moves in and get 100% success-rate (unless your timing is off or skill-lag). Atleast when stealthed, enemies can in rare cases down you by spamming stones all over the place or fear you off. Everything should have some form of counterplay, no matter how lame or hard it is. Step-stomp prevents all counters, even the ones when you rely on others.

Actually, if they must form near instantly, that sets them up to be shadow stepped stomped. As log as they stay within a 1200 radius from you, and you predict where they’ll stop, you’ll finish the stomp, it’s jut that it requires them to mist immediately and is so hard to pull off because of that, effectively letting the thief stomp every class however, with stealth stomping taking care of more than half of the classes

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