My new High dmg/support build! 10k crits!

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Posted by: Amadeus.7980

Amadeus.7980

I can finally crit over 10k!!

Hi guys!

I made a video of my build here where I walk through everything about the build!

But I will also write it down:

The purpose with this build is to sustain high damage while you still contribute with boons to your party! You also got a lot of different slots to swap out, just to fit your playstyle better, and I will go through a couple of them!

Berserker gear
Valkyrie sword and short bow
Berserker pistols and daggers
Soldiers accessories
Berserker amulet and rings

Sword: sigil of force
Short bow: sigil of bloodlust
Pistol: 1x sigil of bloodlust, 1x sigil of force
Dagger: 1x sigil of bloodlust, 1x sigil of force

Mainly using Sword/Pistol and Short bow!

2219 power
3219 attack
1912 precision
51% crit chance
81% critical damage (get increased if you choose sigil of perception instead of bloodlust)

Utility skills/Elite skill
Hide in shadows
Shadow refudge (or switch to “haste”)
Assassin’s signet
Signet of agility
Thieves guild

Traits: 10/30/0/0/30

Deadly arts:
III (mug, do dmg when stealing)
Critical strikes:
I (furious retaliation, gain fury when the target is on 50% health),
III, (side strike, gives you 7% more chance to crit if you are behind the target)
XII, (execusioner, deal 20% more dmg when target is under 50%)
Trickery:
V (thrill of the crime, gain fury, might and swiftness when stealing),
IV(flanking strike, do 5% dmg when hitting from the side or behind),
VII (bountiful theft, give vigor to allies when stealing)

The main ability for this build is “Steal” because you got 3 trait slots with steal-required attributes! In deadly art you get “mug” which damage the target that you use steal on. In Trickery you got “Thrill of the crime” and “Bountyful theft”. “Thrill of the crime” gives you and all nearby allies fury, might and swiftness for 10 seconds and “Bountyful theft” gives you 10 seconds of vigor. The CD on stealth is 27 seconds, so after the boons disappear you only got 17 seconds left until you can use it again and regain all the boons!

Alternativ trait slots:

Instead of “Mug”[I] and 10 points in deadly art for 10 points in shadow arts and pick “Slowed pulse”[II] which will give you regeneration if you get 2 or more stacks of bleed.

Instead of “Side strike”[III] you can take “Practiced tolerance”[VI], 5% of the precision is converted to vitality.

Instead of “Execusioner”[XI] you can take “Hidden killer”[XII], which will give you a 100% chance to crit while in stealth (a tip is to use dagger then, so you can get “ambush”)

Instead of “flanking strikes”[IV] you can take “Merciful ambush” [I], which stealth you and an ally when ressing another ally. Or “Initial strike” [IX] which gives you a 7% chance to regain 1 initiativ per attack you do (you can only use skills 1-3).

Alternatively (if you think that you die too fast) you could also swap 10 points in Deadly art and 10 points in trickery (remove “flanking strikes”) and put 20 points in Shadow arts and take “Slowed pulse”[II] and “Shadow embrace”[IV], which remove 1 condition every 3 seconds while in stealth. You could also switch to “Leeching venoms”[IX], but only if you play with daggers or use the short bow, because you need to deal poison to get healed!!

Playstyle:

Always start with stealth, this will give you much more advantage!

As soon as you used it you press “Pistol whip” 3(sword) and if there’s a normal mob, you don’t need to do much more… Because it’s dead..

If you encounter bosses or veteran mobs you start with the same tactic, but you could also put up your thieves guild before you use stealth.

After you’ve used Pistol whip you dodge back and use “Infiltrator’s strike”2 (sword) just to have a plan B if you get low on health and.

After that you encounter the mob again and start off with “Blackpowder” 5(pistol off-hand) then you go with Pistol whip again (blinds them)!

Dodge and then Pistol whip again.

Then just repeat! Stealth should be ready by this time! If not, use Pistol whip once again!

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Posted by: randomfightfan.4091

randomfightfan.4091

This should be in the “post your build” thread or “guide to thief guides” thread

Check out my page for some good thiefisms :)
http://www.youtube.com/user/randomfightfan/videos?view=0&flow=grid

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Posted by: Amadeus.7980

Amadeus.7980

Guess I’ll move it then ^^ Thanks!

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Posted by: Amadeus.7980

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So, I got some feedback recording the “squishyness” of this build and I just want to reply that I have regeneration approximately 80% of the time while in a dungeon, so conditions are almost never a problem! And I practically only using my healing spell when I got heavy conditions or in an emergancy of it, otherwise I just dodge, stealth or use shadow return.

I learned a long time ago that you need to time your dodge for survival while playing a thief. I even tried with pwr/vit/tough gear and 30 points in the “shadow arts” and “acrobatics” trees? once, still died from conditions…

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Posted by: Amadeus.7980

Amadeus.7980

If you subscribe to my youtube-channel I will put up some more builds! Atm I got a necro, elementalist, warrior and thief. Still need to do a necro and elementalist video for my main builds, then I will do some alternative builds aswell!

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Posted by: Amadeus.7980

Amadeus.7980

Changed my sigil of bloodlust to sigil of perception and it’s a big improvement imo!

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Posted by: swinsk.6410

swinsk.6410

12k crits in wvw are a dime a dozen. Not knocking your build because I run the same thing in spvp. Just saying tho.

I think I got a 15k crit once with this build in wvw a few days ago using d/p.

Just another noob thief…

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Posted by: Amadeus.7980

Amadeus.7980

12k crits in wvw are a dime a dozen. Not knocking your build because I run the same thing in spvp. Just saying tho.

I think I got a 15k crit once with this build in wvw a few days ago using d/p.

Ah, cool man! I’m still experimenting with sigil of perception instead of bloodlust to see if there will be a big dmg difference!

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Posted by: Amadeus.7980

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Got suggested to swap out a sigil on one of my daggers. Anyone got a good tip?

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Posted by: hihey.1075

hihey.1075

Got suggested to swap out a sigil on one of my daggers. Anyone got a good tip?

Superior Sigil of Air? If you go for damage, it COULD help landing an even higher damage back stab!
I like the Chill on Crit sigil too though. It’s really good for controlling fights

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Posted by: Kiro.3164

Kiro.3164

What about signet of malice?
What about Pistol ricochet trait?

Oddly enough p/p is a good aoe with rico

I run a 0 30 0 20 20 and its great for dungeons. You do get a lot of funny looks tho…

As for Malice, its complemented by ricochet and dagger storm.

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Posted by: Amadeus.7980

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Thanks for the response!

Hihey: I have actually just made a PVP build video that I will upload in a day or two. In that video I am using sigil of air and sigil of fire and it is totally beast! So that is something to take into consideration!

Kiro: Signet of malice is nice, but it dosen’t heal me a lot if I need a heal and I will loose my stealth so I wouldn’t fit my playstyle good enough!
“Ricochet” is a fairly nice trait but I don’t know what trait to swap it with. I am also mainly using melee so it might be unecessary to pick it.

I got another tip from a guy on youtube to take “Sleight of hand” which I thought was really great (dumb of me for not thinking about it). I am basing my build on Steal and Sleight of hand will reduce the charge rate with 20% which is great! I was thinking of maybe replace “Bountiful Theft” with it, do you think that is an improvement?

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Posted by: Nime.2089

Nime.2089

I think “Sleight of Hand” belongs in any 10/30/0/0/30 build. It also Dazes your target for one second and reduces the recharge to 21 seconds.
I would either switch it in for Bountiful Theft or maybe Flanking Strike. 5% less dmg (depending on your position) to nearly 75% Vigor uptime is a price you might want to consider.

Please note that BT gives 15 seconds of Vigor (your description is 10) and that your main ability is “Steal” and not “Stealth” (mentioned throughout your description). This information might be missleading.

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Posted by: Amadeus.7980

Amadeus.7980

wow, thanks! I’d totally missed out that I wrote stealth instead of steal!
Hm, yeah I’ll loose 5% extra damage (if I stand in the right position) but I’ll survive longer/have a greater chance to survive with more vigor.

The thing with Sleight of hand is the recharge reduction which I do like, but maybe you’re right!

Thanks for great feedback!

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Posted by: Amadeus.7980

Amadeus.7980

Btw, I upload some tips and builds on my youtube-channel from time to time if anyone is interested!

http://www.youtube.com/user/Killsforpleasure

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Posted by: Amadeus.7980

Amadeus.7980

I finally completed my updated version of this build!
If you think this build is good you should see the 2.0 version!
Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXyqje_wBLA
If you like it and want to see more it would mean a lot if you wanted to subscribe to my youtube channel!