Guild Wars 2

So I ran into a thief a couple of times, and with my ( not so good geared guardian of lvl 80 with 15k hp) I constantly got kitten d by a thief. So I Switched to my warrior since he had a toughness + Vitality build and went back to the puzzle to look for the thief, didnt took long before I found him kitten another warrior.

stats of my warrior:

2765 Armor
28.3k HP

I found myself getting 3 hitted by the thief.

In the end the warrior from the other BL teamed up with me to kill him, but he constantly ran away to regain health and from the shadows dealing like 15k damage or so?

Really need a hotfix for thiefs damage. it’s ridiculous and no fun at all…

omg omg, the zerker thief is killing us !
but it’s not a problem if we also can 3-hit him (or 1 kill shot for 25k+ dmg)

this is not a severe lack of L2P here….no….never…

I was going to post a serious response but then I got the joke.

Seriously though, L2P this entire post is too far exaggerated to be taken seriously.

Did you even move ? Maybe you were afk ?
Really need a hotfix on some players brains ^^

Whenever I see these thread titles i think it’s a thief discussing how bad our condition damage is our how weak our PvE damage is.

Then I see it’s a bad complaining about being killed in a PvP zone.

Sad

Thief community = one of a kind.

What? That’s just not possible. Switching from full Berserker to Soldier, my Warrior becomes totally unkillable. Thieves hit like a wet noodle and drop like flies.

Really, how do you have trouble on a Warrior? Warrior is hands down the best class for 1v1 encounters in WvW. 2 Warriors should completely shut down a single Thief the second he unstealths. You have a plethora of CC and follow-up sustain, as well as immense amounts of emergency self-preservation.

Learn to counter thieves, and they wont give you problems.

Same with Engineers, Elementalists, Rangers etc. unless you counter them
they keep you knocked down or immobilized on spot,
and killing you in 3-12 seconds depending on their builds.

Unlike these which have the potential to disable you during the whole
fight until you die, thieves lacks reliable disabling ccs and hits slightly harder with
their burst skills.

- Turn your front to their backstabs, they mostly are really predictable.
- When you’re low hp, the casual thief will usually spam Heartseeker,
counter it by blocking, do a swift knockdown.
- Dodging the thieves CnD will prevent him from going in stealth, CnD
is usually performed after every attack chain. Against D/D right after you
get Poison on yourself, against S/D right after you are immobilized from IS
or right after you are crippled or if they dodge in the middle of the attack chain
the first attack is usually CnD when they come near you.

- Look for Basilisk venom under the thieves buffs, if a thief comes runing towards you
with this, you most likely have a killspike incoming, and if the thief is lucky the killspike
deals about ~15k dmg if he’s succesfull.
Killspike: It’s done by Starting up CnD, pressing shadowstep/steal in the middle of channeling, stun from basilisk venom, stealth from CnD and backstab from stealth.
Cloak and Dagger can crit 3-5k, steal deals 2000-2500dmg, Backstab crits 7-10k (just wrote some normal values)

Counter it by predicting when he’ll steal (1200 range) and dodge.
If he’s succesful with stunning you, press your stunbreaker and perform a quick dodge,
run and turn your front towards the thief and his backstab will hit for crap dmg.

Now the most likely glasscannon thief is left vulnerable and has to retreat.

Use your über warrior mobility to hunt him down, knock him down, beat him,
kick him, crush him, eat his liver (Vitamin A is good for your health).

Just some suggestions, there are many ways to counter thieves, best thing to do
is just trying the class out and learn how it behaves.
And you’ll see that they can’t really reduce their damage more than it already
has been nerfed during the past months for the class to be viable.

I’d also like to suggest that you always read your Combat log when you have
these wtf moments.

Auesis.7301:

Warrior is hands down the best class for 1v1 encounters in WvW.

Not sure I agree with this statement…

Gear up first before complaining. Then kitten about Warrior sucking so much, that’s not a thieves fault. Or, learn to use invulnerabilities (11 seconds?) and gank that squishy thief with a small stroke of your hammer

shadowraith.9124:

Auesis.7301:

Warrior is hands down the best class for 1v1 encounters in WvW.

Not sure I agree with this statement…

Why? Because Thieves can run away? Big deal. You run, you’ve lost.

How about watching this video and do us a favour by going to Engi forum and makes a similar post like this one but changing the content from Theif/Warrior to Engineer/Thief.

http://youtu.be/GMdcB6Ssd38

I’m going to ask what every thief here is actually wondering – what server were you on, and please god, let these qq tears be for me!

Your armour seems a tad low? What’s your toughness?

DanH.5879:

omg omg, the zerker thief is killing us !
but it’s not a problem if we also can 3-hit him (or 1 kill shot for 25k+ dmg)

this is not a severe lack of L2P here….no….never…

While I agree with you, it would take a horribad thief to be hit with a kill shot.

Dual.8953:

Your armour seems a tad low? What’s your armour?

Uhh, it’s low, of course.

Gasoline.2570:

Dual.8953:

Your armour seems a tad low? What’s your armour?

Uhh, it’s low, of course.

My bad. Postin on the job. Meant toughness.

Can someone share this 15k damage build with me

@OP. Thieves definitely need a hot fix to increase condition damage.

As for anyone getting “3 hitted” (that sounds funny), I’d like to know what 3 skills were cast to knock off 28000 HP. Do tell.

Monoman.2068:

DanH.5879:

omg omg, the zerker thief is killing us !
but it’s not a problem if we also can 3-hit him (or 1 kill shot for 25k+ dmg)

this is not a severe lack of L2P here….no….never…

While I agree with you, it would take a horribad thief to be hit with a kill shot.

Why do people always say that if someone gets hit by so and so skill, they must be terribad? Like youve never been out of stamina, never been cc’d or out of stun breaks before? Not to mention killshot channels thru stealth. Maybe you were concentrating on a fight and didnt see 1500 units away behind you. Abilities like these get landed all the bloody time on all sorts of players. Id love to have killshot on my class.

Sarrow.2785:

Why do people always say that if someone gets hit by so and so skill, they must be terribad? Like youve never been out of stamina, never been cc’d or out of stun breaks before? Not to mention killshot channels thru stealth. Maybe you were concentrating on a fight and didnt see 1500 units away behind you. Abilities like these get landed all the bloody time on all sorts of players. Id love to have killshot on my class.

When I see a rifle warrior my first thought is to keep Whirling Axe or Dagger Storm for that special moment…

Lickage.7318:

So I ran into a thief a couple of times, and with my ( not so good geared guardian of lvl 80 with 15k hp) I constantly got kitten d by a thief. So I Switched to my warrior since he had a toughness + Vitality build and went back to the puzzle to look for the thief, didnt took long before I found him kitten another warrior.

stats of my warrior:

2765 Armor
28.3k HP

I found myself getting 3 hitted by the thief.

In the end the warrior from the other BL teamed up with me to kill him, but he constantly ran away to regain health and from the shadows dealing like 15k damage or so?

Really need a hotfix for thiefs damage. it’s ridiculous and no fun at all…

Are you using a two handed sword on your warrior? If you are just delete this thread its embarrassing. Warriors have been kitten in pvp since forever its not a thief problem its the class you are playing sucks kitten and it needs to be reworked (notice I didn’t say buffed). Also l2 use aegis properly, ruining a thiefs opener (basilisk venom) can really screw him over, remember a smart thief always knows that a guardian has aegis up and will probe it off, so reapply it when you think hes going to open again.

This is a serious L2P issue here. I never lose to thief on my warrior, without even breaking a sweat.