Guild Wars 2

I can say that
FS > Steal works for me w/out a problem
CnD > Steal Works for me
HS > Steal Works for me

Preliminary testing on mobs. Will post more results

Rest of patch in the process of testing power D/P + SB and S/D + P/D

Will edit with thoughts/results

<Update 1>

My steal gets REALLY buggy when traited with Mug
I’ve also noticed HS not hitting during BP HS Steal
Sometimes it all works but BP HS Infsig Steal is a no go

<Update2>

BP nerf is felt. Haven’t fought anyone good (facing Kain/SF no wonder) but Sentries hit through it. This nerf is going to be felt keenly by PvErs

<Update 3>

Rapid Fire needs to go. That much damage from that much range is bad for the game.
Good luck with engies now
Sic Em and Goggles now kill you every time unless user is special
All shadow steps and teleports are fubar’d big time

Prelim Conclusion:

This patch sucks for thieves period, and I have yet to test S/D. Warriors may cry about this patch and say the sky is falling, but for thieves it’s VERY close to it.

Can good thieves still succeed. Yes but only against the absolute worst players in this game. So if anyone now loses 1v1 to any thief in this game it is beyond a question of a doubt a L2P issue…..

Its about terrain and area conflicts (besides the obvious steal bug allready posted in other threads). You should add the area in your results. If its not working in WvW and/ or PvP it will still affect most of the players out there.

Taaru.3240:

Its about terrain and area conflicts (besides the obvious steal bug allready posted in other threads). You should add the area in your results. If its not working in WvW and/ or PvP it will still affect most of the players out there.

Yes terrain kittens steal badly

Just had if fail miserably trying to steal up a ramp.

Visit ranger forum, they still think we are OP cos of stealth and backstab.

Jayden Ennok.3687:

Visit ranger forum, they still think we are OP cos of stealth and backstab.

You see the video of the ranger rapid firing from the top of a mountain for 13k??

Lol

I guess I saw same vid, the ranger has either no buffs or maybe just guard stacks during most of the vid still he hits a lot more dmg than my thief with food/stones/guard stacks and bloodlust. He can do that much dmg from range while having access to stealth and cc.

I consider faster rapid fire a buff to all non-ranger classes since it makes dodges/blocks etc more efficient but I don’t think that much dmg from range is good for the game.

Jayden Ennok.3687:

that much dmg from range isn’t good for the game.

All you needed to type mate

Update

Been using S/D P/D and the burst on sword has been neutered. You feel the loss of instant 5 to 7k damage with 3 boons being ripped. No getting around that loss. I’ve landed some lar’s but noticed it’s pretty buggy in lots of situations. I find myself using CnD more over 3…so it’s more of a return to S/D as it was used upon release.

Gonna give D/P another go but currently I’ve had more success with S/D.

ps The baddies still die and kitten just as loud lol

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Jayden Ennok.3687:

Visit ranger forum, they still think we are OP cos of stealth and backstab.

You see the video of the ranger rapid firing from the top of a mountain for 13k??

Lol

You guys realize that Rangers damage has not changed….that 13k could be achieved before Sept 9th.

ItIsFinished.9462:

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Jayden Ennok.3687:

Visit ranger forum, they still think we are OP cos of stealth and backstab.

You see the video of the ranger rapid firing from the top of a mountain for 13k??

Lol

You guys realize that Rangers damage has not changed….that 13k could be achieved before Sept 9th.

It all depends on DPS it’s not the same if you do 13 k in half of that time you did previously

ItIsFinished.9462:

T raw.4658:

Jayden Ennok.3687:

Visit ranger forum, they still think we are OP cos of stealth and backstab.

You see the video of the ranger rapid firing from the top of a mountain for 13k??

Lol

You guys realize that Rangers damage has not changed….that 13k could be achieved before Sept 9th.

DPS was like doubled bruh

Update

Played some D/P today and here is what I found.

1. BP nerf is rough to adjust too. Playing a blind 1st oriented way is pretty rough compared to before. More of a stealth oriented tactic while busted is more feasible.

2. The reveals are GG period

3. I had to play less aggressive than before leading to longer fights giving the baddies more of a chance

So while I was able to make it work I had to put in some seriously extra effort than before. Against the classes/specs which counter thieves against even the worst players you have to be extra careful. I was fighting a med guard and literally misjudged the BP for one second almost taking a dirt nap. The player was terrible standing in BP etc, but I was forced to SS away at 10% life.

So yes D/P is still feasible vs bad players but I shudder to fight a competent player on one these counter classes/specs