Guild Wars 2

Greetings fellow thieves. We all know unload spam is laughable, but I’ve found it’s true calling.

Straggler assist!
0/30/0/10/30

Practiced tolerance/pistol damage or preference/executioner

Might on dodge or vigor on heal

Thrill / ricochet or bountiful/sleight

P/p, swap sb. Fire /force. All zerker gear. Runes of speed(cheapo traveler). Zerker trinkets, I use call upgrades in them. With the vit I have a decent hp pool.

Utilities: open, step, open.

You have an immobilize. You have heavy concentrated damage. You can swap traits to burst higher with venoms/signets. Downing sub 50% and keeping pressure on any who try to rez.

Playstyles: attach to the side of your Zerg. Partnering with good range bursters, or other thieves hunting the other zergs squishies out of place is your goal. You assist in locking down, interrupting if possible, and then assisting then of course 33333333333.

Anyway, no toughness is sketch, good positioning is a must. My opens are roll, and wire for more lockdown and positioning.

If you don’t feel like roaming but still want those bags, it works provided nice fights (not 20vs mapzerg).

Thought I’d share my slacking few days. Been out of it and tired past month!

Have fun you guys!

I am going to comment because the thief forum is in desperate need of “constructive posts”.

Basically you suggest a variation to a trickery build, your build stays “remotley viable” because of trickery and the utility it offers, this build can be used because of that utility.
However there is a good reason against useing it: Retaliation will destroy you, especially if you use Ricochet, retaliation has very high uptime and basically destroys any build relying on multiple fast hits, it is based on your opponents power and can not be mitigated by tougness you will hurt yourself more than your opponent.

yes I came across it, I normally keep bountiful in it’s place because of that.

wait for your called target (unless you are the one calling), pressure, if they pop stability steal it quick, back out and wire them to you. Unless this zerg you are against is super tightly stacked (almost never – too many pugs everywhere), you can find a target without retal, and without something crazy going on like a shadow refuge and 4 ele’s charging CE.

If you are in the right place, you can make the calls about “let’s not shoot those people crowded around the guardian light fields and the purple feedback bubble.”

That’s like saying “Well, so many aoe condition removals in the zerg, may as well no drop any necro wells or marks”.
It isn’t like you can’t see the retal, or perhaps steal it off of your target (and depending on your 2-4 other people running with you, they can strip too perhaps).

But yes, retal/reflects, and being focused once roll/wd/step are on CD are its weakness. The main weakness I saw however, was pistols lack of piercing. Once they fold back into the zerg, bodyblocking saves them. Again, it’s when I have been feeling under the weather and is for when I don’t feel up to roaming solo.

really decent build. amazing in fractals. been pushing my version of this build for many months on forum. many laugh at it but they dontknow how actual usefull it is. great for tagging healing damage and more!

just take the 10 and put it in mug. so much better with sleight ofhand and drop thrill for long reach (VERY good skill very very VERY underated)

few other things….

Sigil of restoration
sigil of fire (bow)
Sigil of blood
Signet of Malice
Roll for init
blinding powder
(choice here)
Daggerstorm

Runes of perplexity or speed

full zerk(maybe valk weapons)

Bazzoong.7145:

I am going to comment because the thief forum is in desperate need of “constructive posts”.

Basically you suggest a variation to a trickery build, your build stays “remotley viable” because of trickery and the utility it offers, this build can be used because of that utility.
However there is a good reason against useing it: Retaliation will destroy you, especially if you use Ricochet, retaliation has very high uptime and basically destroys any build relying on multiple fast hits, it is based on your opponents power and can not be mitigated by tougness you will hurt yourself more than your opponent.

if actually p;laying pvp with this build…have to run sigils that drop boons and food that steals hp as well as bountiful theft. it should be enough. easy rally chance with this buildtoo. hits a lot of animals giving so much extra hp.

I trade out the 10 in acro for mug when I roam and use long reach; use it for the purpose of the thread too, when I forget to run by retrainer. the 21s cd on mug is sexy and solo roaming the vigor from bountiful is more than enough normally.
For this one however, I am usually within 900 of my target, rendering long reach useless, and I’ve explained my reasoning for my open utilities. unload, unload, steal, roll, wire, BP, unload. generally target is down (remember, you are with 1-4 others, and this target is injured already. i also don’t run any toughness aside from a little on the backpiece because if I am in the wrong place I am dead anyway to hammertrain if I am not fast enough on steps.
It really isn’t something you leave the garrison with hoping to pull off some crazy outnumbered fights, and it isn’t something you even win any 1v1’s with unless you really just caught someone off guard (“what the kitten? pistol pistol? No way I just died to unload spam…” [goes to GW2 forums to create a thread about nerfing thieves; pp in particular]).

Regardless, I am just wanting to share things that hopefully don’t devolve into woe and lamentation the end is near bullkitten. We do need some good healthy feedbacks on the forums – especially our side of the tracks.

I am waiting with baited breath to see how these new traits roll out before I even utter a word about them.

Selver.1307:

I trade out the 10 in acro for mug when I roam and use long reach; use it for the purpose of the thread too, when I forget to run by retrainer. the 21s cd on mug is sexy and solo roaming the vigor from bountiful is more than enough normally.
For this one however, I am usually within 900 of my target, rendering long reach useless, and I’ve explained my reasoning for my open utilities. unload, unload, steal, roll, wire, BP, unload. generally target is down (remember, you are with 1-4 others, and this target is injured already. i also don’t run any toughness aside from a little on the backpiece because if I am in the wrong place I am dead anyway to hammertrain if I am not fast enough on steps.
It really isn’t something you leave the garrison with hoping to pull off some crazy outnumbered fights, and it isn’t something you even win any 1v1’s with unless you really just caught someone off guard (“what the kitten? pistol pistol? No way I just died to unload spam…” [goes to GW2 forums to create a thread about nerfing thieves; pp in particular]).

Regardless, I am just wanting to share things that hopefully don’t devolve into woe and lamentation the end is near bullkitten. We do need some good healthy feedbacks on the forums – especially our side of the tracks.

I am waiting with baited breath to see how these new traits roll out before I even utter a word about them.

why wait to talk about new traits? guild wars 2 puts them out ther for us to see ahead of time to get feedback. it helps them adjust them more fairly and brings up points they may not have considered. also the fun factor is considered

or you can go p/p condition perplexity and kill anyone in your path.

I’ve done the dire/plex p/d/p/p cheese. I hate that runeset with a passion, with builds I use that can counter it, the fights are long and painful, and usually interrupted anyway. Some of my other builds just can’t counter them.

And I am not going to really get into the new traits because I feel any feedback we may give will be completely irrelevant to what the actually implement. I love this game, feedback is great, and you know as well as I do that our community (thief) has tried to give positive and detailed feedback (and still does). It’s the feedback from the other side that I am concerned about. It isn’t there really. At all. You know?

About the new traits in particular, they’ve announced their functionality. I don’t see any feedback about them from now – the 15th to be anything more than something they might tweak a year from now once they get their data collection down pat. I will wait to have them in game to play with before I speculate on new builds, giving up sleight, or HK, or executioner, is really a tough call regardless, and with sigils and runes being up in the air, I want to have the dust settle before I go diving into the concrete pool.

I spent a good 10g on obscure runes a month ago just hoping they’d be useful after they changed them.

Nah, this is the true P/P build :P

Anything that isn’t a necromancer pretty much just cannot kill it. I had a TON of fun trolling a friend of mine who just made his mega-min-max guard build and pretty much 1v1’ed our entire guild and then couldn’t kill this. We dueled for around 35 minutes straight, and he didn’t die only due to his bonkers condi removal. I think he managed to get me around 35% hp once.

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?vYAQRAqa6Yl8MpopdPxzJ0PNRw9wpQtpaFoZ3DuKftC-zECBYiBEXMyk0BimO05RFRjtupIas6ZER16jYBAQAeP3T30Ngf+zf+zf+zCBIdNA-w

tell me how is this build supose to… kill people? I mean i see a lot of cond damage here but dear it looks like a ’’1’’ spammer o_O