Guild Wars 2

Is going all out on damage and traiting no defence/utility really necessary?
On forums all i see is 25/30/x/x/x viable. but what about 0/30/25/15/0?
i really like that build, it makes pugs a lot easier to deal with, it’s also a lot more fun to use. Does it make me a bad thief wanting to use a different build?
In game thiefs also give me a lot different opinions on builds than the ones on the forums.

You should try this thief pve build.

my warriors build is better than that warrior build you posted me lol

idc it still kills everything quickly lol.

Lol, yeah true any warrior build can, but the thief can too, and would like some opinions on how to stay alive in PVE a bit better, as my glass cannon warrior seems to stay up a lot better in every encounter than my thief!

I’m now using 25/30/15/0/0 but im not sure if i should use the 15 in acrobatics instead :/
I’ve tried both, the only thing i miss about having 15 in acrobatics is having the extra dodges.
I was hoping someone who is experienced in the thief prof could possibly suggest something different than the normal build everyone seems to run around here. But i just got you instead, trolling me ah well.

0/30/25/15 is fine in a pug, but let’s not kid ourselves about the damage. It’s at least 30%, but probably more like 50% below the 25/30/x/x/x build. For that reason alone it’s probably not worth it.

I am the welcoming comittee.

I run s/p and either SB or p/p 25/30/0/15/0 full valk with zerk trinkets for pve.

lets face it, by not running 25//30/10/x/x, you literally cut your damage in half. If your worried about survival problems run s/p with signet of malice and spam pistolwhip, if that doesnt keep you up then your going to be eating dirt a whole lot more as a warrior

Robtastic.2647:

Is going all out on damage and traiting no defence/utility really necessary?
On forums all i see is 25/30/x/x/x viable. but what about 0/30/25/15/0?
i really like that build, it makes pugs a lot easier to deal with, it’s also a lot more fun to use. Does it make me a bad thief wanting to use a different build?
In game thiefs also give me a lot different opinions on builds than the ones on the forums.

No, you definitely don’t have to run a build like that to be viable.

Check out the thief forums on GuildWars2Guru.com. There are a lot of good alternative thief builds there. A 25/30/0/0/15 will still get you through dungeons more efficiently than any other build if you know the fights and can time your dodges well, but you can clear all PvE content in the game with just about any build you can think of (well, top tier fractals is probably the exception), so go with what you enjoy.

Here are some threads from the Guru forums you may be interested in:

An Introduction to S/D Builds and Play Styles [Guide]

Examination of Ranged Thieves

A Look at D/D Condition Dmg Thieves

P/D Trolling Tormentor

Dahkeus.8243:

Robtastic.2647:

Is going all out on damage and traiting no defence/utility really necessary?
On forums all i see is 25/30/x/x/x viable. but what about 0/30/25/15/0?
i really like that build, it makes pugs a lot easier to deal with, it’s also a lot more fun to use. Does it make me a bad thief wanting to use a different build?
In game thiefs also give me a lot different opinions on builds than the ones on the forums.

No, you definitely don’t have to run a build like that to be viable.

Check out the thief forums on GuildWars2Guru.com. There are a lot of good alternative thief builds there. A 25/30/0/0/15 will still get you through dungeons more efficiently than any other build if you know the fights and can time your dodges well, but you can clear all PvE content in the game with just about any build you can think of (well, top tier fractals is probably the exception), so go with what you enjoy.

Here are some threads from the Guru forums you may be interested in:

An Introduction to S/D Builds and Play Styles [Guide]

Examination of Ranged Thieves

A Look at D/D Condition Dmg Thieves

P/D Trolling Tormentor

all of those builds are for either wvw or pvp

Clumsy.6257:

Dahkeus.8243:

Robtastic.2647:

Is going all out on damage and traiting no defence/utility really necessary?
On forums all i see is 25/30/x/x/x viable. but what about 0/30/25/15/0?
i really like that build, it makes pugs a lot easier to deal with, it’s also a lot more fun to use. Does it make me a bad thief wanting to use a different build?
In game thiefs also give me a lot different opinions on builds than the ones on the forums.

No, you definitely don’t have to run a build like that to be viable.

Check out the thief forums on GuildWars2Guru.com. There are a lot of good alternative thief builds there. A 25/30/0/0/15 will still get you through dungeons more efficiently than any other build if you know the fights and can time your dodges well, but you can clear all PvE content in the game with just about any build you can think of (well, top tier fractals is probably the exception), so go with what you enjoy.

Here are some threads from the Guru forums you may be interested in:

An Introduction to S/D Builds and Play Styles [Guide]

Examination of Ranged Thieves

A Look at D/D Condition Dmg Thieves

P/D Trolling Tormentor

all of those builds are for either wvw or pvp

Umm…no. Many of them will work there as well, but those are primarily PvE guides to alternative builds.

build 1. s/d is only better than s/p in less than 5 situations in the entire game
build 2. there are 3 bosses that are easier to range than to melee (excluding world bosses but lets face it these dont count)
build 3. condis arent viable in pve, if you need me to explain why then you dont pve
build 4. see build 3.

In general no, but condition thieves are still effective with conditions so long as they are the only ones doing it.