Guild Wars 2

So i have been using P/D for quite a lengthy period now, and i find myself constantly switching between 20/0/30/20/0 and 0/0/30/20/20. Both are great. Which build do you guys think is better for WvW (mostly for 1v1)? I really like the venoms but i have to give up shadow refuge for the devourer venom. Signet of shadows is a must; i just can’t stand being slow. I feel shadow refuge is so vital for the thief cause it allows for an escape from the worst of situations, but at the same time, i feel like i’m wasting the venom traits by taking it over the immobilize.

What do you guys think?

1v1 vs what? Imo 20/0/30/20/0 is better 1v1 but I run 0/0/30/20/20 most of the time.

I mean its the same gear and retraiting isnt expensive just run whatever you feel like running I switch my traits up all the time.

You can get by without devourer venom imo you can run 0/0/30/20/20 with venoms too.

I think really only spider is good if you are running 0/0/30/20/20 if you can get off all 5 strike landing successfully provided they don’t wipe the poison by time it wears off its back up again since it stack duration spider is also extra dps so you can add spider to 30/20/20 really its what you like to run at the moment in my opinion.

1v1 vs another p/d thief say opposing specs I would give the edge to 20/0/30/20 but slight it still will come down to cnd’s etc and probably be a stalemate anyway provided equal skill.

I really only have problems with a all the way bunker guardian with the passive condi removal thats usually a stalemate fight anway.

Its really not 100% set in stone cookie cutter, some run leeching venoms which adds extra dps and is available on either build set up some dont run venoms etc.

in a 1v1 it just comes down to your preference as both builds are capable of 1v1, 1v2, 1v3, etc…

I prefer the 20/0/30/20/0 build. I don’t use Shadow Refuge anymore. It feels like a wasted slot in this build. For utilities I go with:

Hide in Shadows – Obvious heal/stealth

Spider Venom – Goes great with the traits, excellent for added damage in condition build

Blinding Powder – This has a lot of benefits over SR. It’s an instant stealth/blind. Sometimes I’ll hit it along with spider venom and then instantly get a quick shot off to apply bleeds/poison very fast.

Signet of Shadows – Obvious for the 25% speed increase, but what most people fail to use this for is the instant blind. Great for when you need to avoid damage and you cant dodge or stealth.

Shadow Refuge has more benefits if you’re running with others but I usually go solo. I like the instant stealth and free blind that blinding powder offers much more than SR. Anytime I see another thief use SR I switch to bow and drop a poison and then an immediate cluster bomb. They usually fly out of there as soon as the cluster bomb hits. But most classes will go in the circle of SR and start swinging or knocking you out.

This is why I like p/d so much is the flexibility like Fat runs BP. and spider

I run 0/0/30/20/20 and usually run shadow step (for those GC thieves with haste) and shadow refuge. I like SR as opposed to SR because like fat who drops the poison Ill drop SR and pop leeching bolts straight from it which is really good and if you time it right you can get 2 sneak attacks while under refuge and of course I run SoS.