Guild Wars 2

Well I just got some exotic 80 pistols because i was bored and i really like the P/P combo for the thief… the problem is I really havent found a solid guide or build that is focused on straight dmg instead of cond. dmg. Is there any other P/P users who dont mind posting a build, or just talking about their experience in pvp with the P/P combo.

lighterdark.5307:

Well I just got some exotic 80 pistols because i was bored and i really like the P/P combo for the thief… the problem is I really havent found a solid guide or build that is focused on straight dmg instead of cond. dmg. Is there any other P/P users who dont mind posting a build, or just talking about their experience in pvp with the P/P combo.

My guide would be; “get a shortbow instead”

I have on as well, what weapons do you use?

lighterdark.5307:

I have on as well, what weapons do you use?

Fort wall defence: Pistols for single targets/shortbow for groups.
Assassination: Dagger, Dagger. Sword, Pistol.
Fort attack: Sit back, get a deck chair and a box of popcorn and let the classes with survivability and group combat viability do the work. Maybe defend the siege weaponry from strike teams if they try by being behind the siege line. If you really must get involved: shortbow clusterbomb the enemy front line.

Alice.8694:

lighterdark.5307:

I have on as well, what weapons do you use?

Fort wall defence: Pistols for single targets/shortbow for groups.
Assassination: Dagger, Dagger. Sword, Pistol.
Fort attack: Sit back, get a deck chair and a box of popcorn and let the classes with survivability and group combat viability do the work. Maybe defend the siege weaponry from strike teams if they try by being behind the siege line. If you really must get involved: shortbow clusterbomb the enemy front line.

May I see you D/D S/P build?

lighterdark.5307:

Alice.8694:

lighterdark.5307:

I have on as well, what weapons do you use?

Fort wall defence: Pistols for single targets/shortbow for groups.
Assassination: Dagger, Dagger. Sword, Pistol.
Fort attack: Sit back, get a deck chair and a box of popcorn and let the classes with survivability and group combat viability do the work. Maybe defend the siege weaponry from strike teams if they try by being behind the siege line. If you really must get involved: shortbow clusterbomb the enemy front line.

May I see you D/D S/P build?

Yes if I remember this thread by tomorrow. It’s 4am here and I don’t have it in linkable form.

Alice.8694:

lighterdark.5307:

I have on as well, what weapons do you use?

Fort wall defence: Pistols for single targets/shortbow for groups.
Assassination: Dagger, Dagger. Sword, Pistol.
Fort attack: Sit back, get a deck chair and a box of popcorn and let the classes with survivability and group combat viability do the work. Maybe defend the siege weaponry from strike teams if they try by being behind the siege line. If you really must get involved: shortbow clusterbomb the enemy front line.

For defense a single good thief with some decent condition damage can usually push a zerg off of a gate by themselves by dropping as many caltrops as possible and daggerstorming before rolling back inside. Caltrops are easily one of the most potent “field” AEs in the game, and will also prevent people from escaping a concentrated AE if you’re able to coincide your attack with some fire from defensive emplacements. This allows you to take a more active and exciting role in siege defense, and as a bonus I’ve been able to steal flame ram blueprints left on the ground on several occasions before they could be built due to driving a zerg off of a gate.

For offense your job is to use the thief’s many gap closers/cripples/immobilizes to ensure that no one is reinforcing the target structure. Few professions are as good as a thief at ensuring that ranger can’t roll his way inside to plink people from the wall with a longbow, or bring supplies to get an arrow cart up.

For attack I use shortbow:) and scorp wire to pull people down from the walls.
Also shadow refuge is a good stealth reviver:)
Pls don’t sit back and wait, even though our support is minimal, minimal is still more than nothing:)

I use P/P and D/D with a shortbow in my inventory for defense.

I usually shadowstep to within range of an enemy and attack while trying to make him burn his/her evade then ones thats done I use unload which crits with my build about 5-8k I got close to 9k but I am still on rare armors with only acc and weapons as exotics. Ones I get plenty of medals I should be rocking in full exotics and hopefully would improve my damage.

Joshiasi.2840:

I use P/P and D/D with a shortbow in my inventory for defense.

I usually shadowstep to within range of an enemy and attack while trying to make him burn his/her evade then ones thats done I use unload which crits with my build about 5-8k I got close to 9k but I am still on rare armors with only acc and weapons as exotics. Ones I get plenty of medals I should be rocking in full exotics and hopefully would improve my damage.

I’m in full exotics with 3200 attack and 50% crit n 60% crit DMV and I only hit for 5k max howww

The 5k-8k range varies on class. On the heavy armored classes, I tend to hit in the 5k tops while the lighter armor classes I deal higher. What sigils do you have in your weapon? And also what exotic armors are you wearing? Are they the power+toughness+vitality kind?

I do have power+prec+crit damage % on my acc and power+toughness+vitality on my armor. With power+crit damage%+precision runes.

Also what traits did you select?

You could always pop Haste and spam Unload, then use Signet of Agility to get all your endurance back, then use Roll for Initiative to get some initiative back for another Unload at normal speed.

Even then, you probably won’t bring down a target. Also, pray they don’t have the ability to reflect projectiles.

Joshiasi.2840:

The 5k-8k range varies on class. On the heavy armored classes, I tend to hit in the 5k tops while the lighter armor classes I deal higher. What sigils do you have in your weapon? And also what exotic armors are you wearing? Are they the power+toughness+vitality kind?

I do have power+prec+crit damage % on my acc and power+toughness+vitality on my armor. With power+crit damage%+precision runes.

Also what traits did you select?

I am actually looking for a build so if you can link yours that would be great:D im in full emerald/knight set.. the only prob is the health pool is super low so i also made a beryl set and i kinda interchange armor… on my weapons i have both invaders and zerks and each set is an air and rage sigil. what do you run?

I call this my Mobile Machine Gun pistol build:

http://www.gw2db.com/skills/calc/thief#10|10|2632|4004|3999|2786|11435|0|0|0|0|30|1719|1193|1728|0|0|0|0|25|2353|1168|0|15|782|0|0|0|0|3|28035|28028|49962|49962|49962|49962|49962|25790|21080|21080|21080|21080|21080|

This spec can easily be customized or tweaked in different directions depending on what you want. Want more raw power, and aoe weakness on your bow? Trade out the 15 in Trickery. It’s easy to change your heal or utilities to tailor against opponents as well or for personal preference. It is weakest against conditions, but that is easily fixed swapping a few things as well. You can also tailor this into a vampiric build with Signet of Malice and Assassin’s Reward, making your unloads heal for 1k+ each time you use them.

Ah, forgot to mention, I run shortbow with the flame AoE proc as my other weapon set for those AoE situations.

Cyricus.2981:

I call this my Mobile Machine Gun pistol build:

http://www.gw2db.com/skills/calc/thief#10|10|2632|4004|3999|2786|11435|0|0|0|0|30|1719|1193|1728|0|0|0|0|25|2353|1168|0|15|782|0|0|0|0|3|28035|28028|49962|49962|49962|49962|49962|25790|21080|21080|21080|21080|21080|

This spec can easily be customized or tweaked in different directions depending on what you want. Want more raw power, and aoe weakness on your bow? Trade out the 15 in Trickery. It’s easy to change your heal or utilities to tailor against opponents as well or for personal preference. It is weakest against conditions, but that is easily fixed swapping a few things as well. You can also tailor this into a vampiric build with Signet of Malice and Assassin’s Reward, making your unloads heal for 1k+ each time you use them.

Ah, forgot to mention, I run shortbow with the flame AoE proc as my other weapon set for those AoE situations.

ty sir! I will try this out in WvW

lighterdark.5307:

Cyricus.2981:

I call this my Mobile Machine Gun pistol build:

http://www.gw2db.com/skills/calc/thief#10|10|2632|4004|3999|2786|11435|0|0|0|0|30|1719|1193|1728|0|0|0|0|25|2353|1168|0|15|782|0|0|0|0|3|28035|28028|49962|49962|49962|49962|49962|25790|21080|21080|21080|21080|21080|

This spec can easily be customized or tweaked in different directions depending on what you want. Want more raw power, and aoe weakness on your bow? Trade out the 15 in Trickery. It’s easy to change your heal or utilities to tailor against opponents as well or for personal preference. It is weakest against conditions, but that is easily fixed swapping a few things as well. You can also tailor this into a vampiric build with Signet of Malice and Assassin’s Reward, making your unloads heal for 1k+ each time you use them.

Ah, forgot to mention, I run shortbow with the flame AoE proc as my other weapon set for those AoE situations.

ty sir! I will try this out in WvW

No problem, let me know how it goes. I haven’t actually used it in WvW yet, just spvp. It seems like it would be viable though and it’s tons of fun with all the rapid fire pistols going off. For burst, you want to use Basilisk Venom + Haste + Unload spam.

Cyricus.2981:

lighterdark.5307:

Cyricus.2981:

I call this my Mobile Machine Gun pistol build:

http://www.gw2db.com/skills/calc/thief#10|10|2632|4004|3999|2786|11435|0|0|0|0|30|1719|1193|1728|0|0|0|0|25|2353|1168|0|15|782|0|0|0|0|3|28035|28028|49962|49962|49962|49962|49962|25790|21080|21080|21080|21080|21080|

This spec can easily be customized or tweaked in different directions depending on what you want. Want more raw power, and aoe weakness on your bow? Trade out the 15 in Trickery. It’s easy to change your heal or utilities to tailor against opponents as well or for personal preference. It is weakest against conditions, but that is easily fixed swapping a few things as well. You can also tailor this into a vampiric build with Signet of Malice and Assassin’s Reward, making your unloads heal for 1k+ each time you use them.

Ah, forgot to mention, I run shortbow with the flame AoE proc as my other weapon set for those AoE situations.

ty sir! I will try this out in WvW

No problem, let me know how it goes. I haven’t actually used it in WvW yet, just spvp. It seems like it would be viable though and it’s tons of fun with all the rapid fire pistols going off. For burst, you want to use Basilisk Venom + Haste + Unload spam.

ehh im iffy on that basilisk venom imo 45 secs for 1 sec stun isnt too hot. Is there some hidden trick or anything haha

Yeah, that was more so for spvp setup. You are probably better off with something else for WvW, but don’t underestimate the power of keeping someone from running out of range or chasing people down, the one second stun can easily make a player get mobbed by your group.