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Posted by: Mixchimmer.7230

Mixchimmer.7230

Not sure if anyone’s made a post about this yet, but the “Hidden Killer” Grandmaster trait that gives 100% crit chance while in stealth is no longer working.

Tested on multiple mobs and the crit rate for me is about equal to what my regular crit chance should be.

I get the feeling this wasn’t intended, but I wanted to let people know!.

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Posted by: evilapprentice.6379

evilapprentice.6379

Are you getting the hidden killer buff when you are in stealth?

If you’re a thief and haven’t
pre-ordered HOT at this point,
save yourself the money and don’t bother.

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Posted by: Zera.8907

Zera.8907

Well, that just broke my whole spec. WTG Anet!

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Posted by: Elusive.3065

Elusive.3065

/confirmed

hopefuly when they fix it completely this time,
in pvp the trait didn’t always guarantee a crit from stealth, it was buggy

now its just broken

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Posted by: Dakarius.3284

Dakarius.3284

confimed

/15char

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Posted by: Snipe Evon.8549

Snipe Evon.8549

Yep, it’s not working for me as well.

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Posted by: Maladon.5760

Maladon.5760

You should be using Executioner anyway

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Posted by: Karolis.4261

Karolis.4261

It did work 100 % of the time before patch. It just never worked with stealth stacking. For example backstab out of shadow refuge or from any other kind of stacked stealth, if more then 3 seconds have passed ( or 4, im not sure if hiden killer trait is affected by SA trait that increases stealth time, becouse i did see it fail when backstabing last second, just before stealth wears off) will not be guaranteed crit. I havent loged in yet, but for some reason I think that you all are full of crap, like claiming that hidden killer didnt work before patch.

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Posted by: Karolis.4261

Karolis.4261

You should be using Executioner anyway

Noup. Not all thieves run full zerker with instagib 25/30/0/0/15 build. Shocker… I know…

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Posted by: Yams.6082

Yams.6082

As a thief with only 10 points in the precision tree, I hope the rest of you enjoy keeping your fingers crossed for a crit on backstab like me. Until the bug is fixed, of course.

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Posted by: Jinks.2057

Jinks.2057

Yes its broke now after patch. Best way to test for yourself is in the front of mobs.

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Posted by: awgardner.9634

awgardner.9634

You should post this in the bugs section of the forums.

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Posted by: Volrath.1473

Volrath.1473

I’m still at work, as any one tested traps? are they working now? (i know no one uses them but still it would be good if something worked on this profession)

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Posted by: Mixchimmer.7230

Mixchimmer.7230

You should post this in the bugs section of the forums.

Ah, good idea, I should have done this from the start.

I went ahead and posted it there as well.

Thanks!

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Posted by: Macovan.3650

Macovan.3650

It is bugged. Holly kitten, as always. With every patch anet manages to break something.

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Posted by: Capas.9240

Capas.9240

Confirmed… There are several other threads. This is severely affecting gameplay for thieves that have builds around this! Please fix.

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Posted by: Daeqar.8965

Daeqar.8965

You should be using Executioner anyway

For certain builds, Hidden Killer is vastly more dps gain. Generally, these would be builds with frequent stealth cycles and semi tanky gear like Power/Vitality/Toughness. It also has much more predictable results.

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Posted by: Mixchimmer.7230

Mixchimmer.7230

You should be using Executioner anyway

For certain builds, Hidden Killer is vastly more dps gain. Generally, these would be builds with frequent stealth cycles and semi tanky gear like Power/Vitality/Toughness. It also has much more predictable results.

Yeah, I primarily PvE where mobs just sit there and let you repeatedly stealth-cycle backstab them. This is the main reason I use hidden killer — though if you make a good enough case, I can certainly be persuaded.

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Posted by: SilverWF.4789

SilverWF.4789

Confirmed, have a video about this!

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Posted by: Dualona.4506

Dualona.4506

Confirmed, Tested with no gear on spvp bots and it did not give 100% crit from stealth.

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Posted by: Ruin.7350

Ruin.7350

It’s broken for me also. And before patch I found it didn’t ensure a critical hit. I think Karolis is right that it didn’t work with stealth stacking, which I think it should. Anyway, hope they fix it and make it work 100% of the time like it’s supposed to.

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Posted by: SilverWF.4789

SilverWF.4789

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Posted by: Geiir.7603

Geiir.7603

+1 I can confirm this too.

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Posted by: ReFLeX.8129

ReFLeX.8129

Also can confirm. Lame.

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Posted by: Captainlasercannon.8914

Captainlasercannon.8914

Confirmed.

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Posted by: Aretak.3826

Aretak.3826

Confirmed, kittening anet.

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Posted by: Karolis.4261

Karolis.4261

Loged in … confirming buged hidden killer. Allso 4 s revealed is just broken, i would go with revealed after stealth fades off vs 4 second reveal anyday …

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Posted by: Doggie.3184

Doggie.3184

Instead of 100% crit it’s 100% broken instead. .-.

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Posted by: stof.9341

stof.9341

They probably changed it to something like +20% crit from Stealth but forgot to add it to the patch notes.

Having your crit chance going over 100% was kinder out of balance, imho.

Which wouldn’t be even worthy of a Minor Trait.

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Posted by: Mixchimmer.7230

Mixchimmer.7230

Well I posted this to the bugs subforum and a Dev responded and said they were looking into it.

Just wanted to give everyone an update!.

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Posted by: SilverWF.4789

SilverWF.4789

Up to the thread! What a reason was to break thieves completely?!

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Posted by: Daendur.2357

Daendur.2357

It is obviously a bug, and they will fix it soon.
I hope.

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Posted by: dreadlocked.3794

dreadlocked.3794

Instead of 100% crit it’s 100% broken instead. .-.

You mean 100% useless

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Posted by: Doggie.3184

Doggie.3184

It is obviously a bug, and they will fix it soon.
I hope.

Shadow Protector is an obvious bug too, how long has that gone unfixed? Since beta?

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Posted by: Cygnus.6903

Cygnus.6903

If they will nerve HK in any way, there will be no reason whatsoever not to use Executioner instead. I’ll probably quite thief altogether then, because I’m not interested in playing 25/30/0/0/15 instagib.

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Posted by: Lasss.8169

Lasss.8169

Showing support.. Fix this :-)

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Posted by: ReFLeX.8129

ReFLeX.8129

It will probably be another month or more when it’s fixed, when they release another patch.

Yay a break from gw2, just in time for spring! I think it’s also time for less gw2 and more BF3.

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Posted by: Addictive.9387

Addictive.9387

I’m not sure if I am the only one, but pre-patch there would be times I would not crit out of stealth. Unless there is some sort of stat in the game which cancels critical hits then I don’t know why caused this.

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