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Posted by: Katalan.7930

Katalan.7930

Hi guys,

As you can see on metabattle the carrion amulette S/D condi thief have very good rate !!
And i checked again and again the build how does it work, what does it do, what is stronge on etc… So for me on paper, it seems very bad…
-Weapon (the only apply condi is the 2 witch immobilize = 2 stacks poison) / Dagger (no damage and hard to stealth) / Sword 3 (after evade so slow on hit = never reach)
-Traits: Sleight of Hand (why as a condi thief dont run bewildering embush instead ? cuz they choose not to run PI or Torment on interrupt…so no value of choosing the daze) / Escapists Absolution (why running this trait even you have enought condi cleanse from sword 2 + shadow step + signet…so instead because they choose the daze on steal, why dont go on PI ??) / Impaling lotus (no damage but just apply many different condi for make harder to cleanse (no bad) but soo bad mobility = no pressure)

So what this build is good at ? good sustain only ? Hybrid ? dps only ? condi only ? Mobility ? … tell me
I didnt tried hard this build so i dont know very well if its good or not (vailable in PVP) but just take a look on weapon the only good thing is the sustain because sword is so slow for even reach your ennemy…

If you know more about this build and you found out this is really vailable please just let me know your opinion/advice etc.

Thank you

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Posted by: Elyxia.2943

Elyxia.2943

show the description from metabattle and l2p, than have you a good alternativ build to play ranked…

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Posted by: JonnyForgotten.4276

JonnyForgotten.4276

Actually ran into someone running this today, and I have to say, it was pretty deadly. I would look through the build, then make some tweaks, but it does work if played well.

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Posted by: Ramoth.9064

Ramoth.9064

I use a similar build, but with S/P, for those sweet sweet headshots.

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Posted by: ZiggyStardust.3194

ZiggyStardust.3194

just absolute newbies are playing condi builds…smash smash keyboard and wait people die… sadly anet only is capable to make builds for newbies, make them feel proud that they did something, even when they haven’t Play hard builds, not an easy overpowered crap

Don’t waste your hard earned pennies for the broken game!

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Posted by: saerni.2584

saerni.2584

Lol, been playing condi since close to release. You should reconsider your position in light of this.

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Posted by: ZiggyStardust.3194

ZiggyStardust.3194

Lol, been playing condi since close to release. You should reconsider your position in light of this.

So, just because you play condi since release you say it’s not the easiest build to play? You do nothing, just spam few buttons, it’s same with staff. Yes, it’s strong build, nobody can argue, but it’s easies build for newbies, like DH bow It’s actually sad because it proves how useless ANET creativity is. They can’t work with power builds properly because it requires thinking, and condi….just luck so easy pezy

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Posted by: saerni.2584

saerni.2584

Yeah…no.

You keep repeating “easy.” I don’t know if you think you’re being clever by repeating that word as though simply by repeating it you make it true.

But, I’ve also played power builds for a long time. It’s not harder. It’s just different. The combos, the risks, the advantages and weaknesses are all different. Different doesn’t make one harder or easier than harder than the other.

You’re wrong. You suggested only a new player uses condi. That’s not true based on the insane amount of terrible power build players I’ve come across. I posed that experienced players do, in fact, play condi. Myself for one. You responded “haha it’s just a spam button build.” It’s not. Your refusal to reconsider your position is sad.

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Posted by: Koto.1824

Koto.1824

I love how just because it’s on meta battle people immediately go “Oh, i love this build because blah blah blah” NO. The build is absolute garbage if you’re facing a player that’s half decent. I agree that it’s an easy build, but it’s more of a why would you ever play that trash kinda build. I hate to ruin your fun and all, but it’s not competitive at all. Every single s/d condi thief i’ve seen (maybe around 5-7 ish) I was able to hard counter with mesmer. Not only is it a bad damage dealer, it has no dash which hinders it’s mobility by a lot. The teams that I faced with an s/d thief all lost, and the ones where we had an s/d thief, we barely won.

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Posted by: saerni.2584

saerni.2584

So its both easy to play and can’t fight anything?

I’d probably agree it is difficult to be a threat on this build…but that makes it hard to play well unless you can overcome the weaknesses of the build.

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Posted by: babazhook.6805

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The mobility on the build is fine. The combination of ports and cripples always applied gives plenty of mobility. The build uses Lynx which is fine for swiftness not being there and swiftness is oft stolen in any case.

I just think damage a bit lacking and would prefer P off hand to get PI in there along with torments if you are hybrid and even if those not traited the on demand interrupts still so very useful.

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