Guild Wars 2

I was in WvW last night and fought a ranger and two other thieves. It was too much for me to handle so I SF and retreated. I broke LOS from the ranger and thieves and was a good distance from them. Then out of no kittening where, this kittening wolve was on my kitten with the owner no where to be seen….wtf.

you can run, but you can’t hide forever !

Perhaps this is how anet is solving the stealth problem. Pets are pretty useless right now though. Takes about 3 hits to kill them.

wolves tick me off the most, kitten tackling

Maybe it was smelling you? Time for a shower?
Seriously though, that would be nice balance for stealth… if Ranger’s pets could sort of “smell” you.

If this is a stealth thief-nerf and ranger-buff, I won’t complain too much. Poor rangers. I mean, they’ll still be second best at it (mesmer clones are probably still superior in this regard), but hey, another thing that they can be sub-par instead of awful at

I’d like to see one of our low health, low dps pets have a see stealthed skill. That could go a long way to balancing stealth in WvWvW.

Columba.9730:

I’d like to see one of our low health, low dps pets have a see stealthed skill. That could go a long way to balancing stealth in WvWvW.

They already do. (Mobs now chase you in stealth.)

Ranger pets don’t while thieves are stealthed. Only when they leave stealth.

It can be pretty outrageous.
Brb, ranger is nowhere in sight.
Come out of stealth, start fighting a mesmer. Here comes Fido making a mad dash for my kitten like I owe him money.

ensoriki.5789:

It can be pretty outrageous.
Brb, ranger is nowhere in sight.
Come out of stealth, start fighting a mesmer. Here comes Fido making a mad dash for my kitten like I owe him money.

Rofl! Thanks, that post made my day – brilliant, just brilliant!

Laughing so hard my stomach hurts!

Columba.9730:

Ranger pets don’t while thieves are stealthed. Only when they leave stealth.

He probably meant under the effects of culling stealth. Pets now attack when the “stealth” drops and not when it rendered and ranger could sick the pet on them again.

It only confirms my suspicion that ranger pets were smarter than their masters…

Kyrion.2749:

It only confirms my suspicion that ranger pets were smarter than their masters…

Haha! In most cases I would have to agree with you

Royce Melborn.3276:

Maybe it was smelling you? Time for a shower?
Seriously though, that would be nice balance for stealth… if Ranger’s pets could sort of “smell” you.

The elephant in the room tried this, it didn’t work. MMO history ftw.

tigirius.9014:

Royce Melborn.3276:

Maybe it was smelling you? Time for a shower?
Seriously though, that would be nice balance for stealth… if Ranger’s pets could sort of “smell” you.

The elephant in the room tried this, it didn’t work. MMO history ftw.

And the elephant also implemented stealth at all.
Didn’t work there either.
Just like everyone else that tried it.

Sifu.6527:

I was in WvW last night and fought a ranger and two other thieves. It was too much for me to handle so I SF and retreated. I broke LOS from the ranger and thieves and was a good distance from them. Then out of no kittening where, this kittening wolve was on my kitten with the owner no where to be seen….wtf.

LOL

“Then out of no kittening where, this kittening wolve was on my kitten with the owner no where to be seen….wtf.”

a thief complaining about “Then out of no kittening where” and “the owner no where to be seen” is just too good to be true

yea so hows it feel to taste your own medicine?

firebreathz.7692:

Sifu.6527:

I was in WvW last night and fought a ranger and two other thieves. It was too much for me to handle so I SF and retreated. I broke LOS from the ranger and thieves and was a good distance from them. Then out of no kittening where, this kittening wolve was on my kitten with the owner no where to be seen….wtf.

LOL

“Then out of no kittening where, this kittening wolve was on my kitten with the owner no where to be seen….wtf.”

a thief complaining about “Then out of no kittening where” and “the owner no where to be seen” is just too good to be true

yea so hows it feel to taste your own medicine?

Ignorance is bliss.. aaah

iNaddict.8021:

firebreathz.7692:

Sifu.6527:

I was in WvW last night and fought a ranger and two other thieves. It was too much for me to handle so I SF and retreated. I broke LOS from the ranger and thieves and was a good distance from them. Then out of no kittening where, this kittening wolve was on my kitten with the owner no where to be seen….wtf.

LOL

“Then out of no kittening where, this kittening wolve was on my kitten with the owner no where to be seen….wtf.”

a thief complaining about “Then out of no kittening where” and “the owner no where to be seen” is just too good to be true

yea so hows it feel to taste your own medicine?

Ignorance is bliss.. aaah

from the way you worded that it implies that you were stating that about yourself

firebreathz.7692:

iNaddict.8021:

firebreathz.7692:

Sifu.6527:

I was in WvW last night and fought a ranger and two other thieves. It was too much for me to handle so I SF and retreated. I broke LOS from the ranger and thieves and was a good distance from them. Then out of no kittening where, this kittening wolve was on my kitten with the owner no where to be seen….wtf.

LOL

“Then out of no kittening where, this kittening wolve was on my kitten with the owner no where to be seen….wtf.”

a thief complaining about “Then out of no kittening where” and “the owner no where to be seen” is just too good to be true

yea so hows it feel to taste your own medicine?

Ignorance is bliss.. aaah

from the way you worded that it implies that you were stating that about yourself

stating a fact .. actually

This thread is pure win

They really need to add a LOS to stealth and mob/pet aggro. Who knows if they can even pull off a mechanic like that though. They added a bug fix that caused more bugs, shoulda just left it alone till it was 100% before adding.

“Waaaaah, I actually have to pay a bit more attention to ranger pets now. Unfair!”

That’s pretty much all I’ve gathered from this thread.

when you stink, then ofc the mobs and pets can follow you in stealth, doooh !

Woah woah woah woah HOLD IT GUYS!
Does that mean pet is not kittening kitten?
Does it mean Rangers finally are a tad stronger, even though they got nerfed hard again, against thieves?

FIX THIS ANET!!!! Nobody should be allowed to attack thieves!

It’s a buff really, you now have a target to C&D on while making your get-away. No need to equip Shadow Refuge anymore, safer too, without the house mark. The ranger might be annoyed that his pet is having a will of its own but they can always complain on the forum. The ranger forum. Or would they still come here, “Thiefs steal our pets, this has to stop” ….

frans.8092:

It’s a buff really, you now have a target to C&D on while making your get-away. No need to equip Shadow Refuge anymore, safer too, without the house mark. The ranger might be annoyed that his pet is having a will of its own but they can always complain on the forum. The ranger forum. Or would they still come here, “Thiefs steal our pets, this has to stop” ….

Everyone doing PVE would kindly like to return this “buff” for a full refund. Thanks

As a wvw-focused player who’s endured months of stealth+culling nonsense, I love this thread. The wolf came out of nowhere!

slingblade.1437:

As a wvw-focused player who’s endured months of stealth+culling nonsense, I love this thread. The wolf came out of nowhere!

Why still focus thief? Since the update a while back everyones culling

Doggie.3184:

slingblade.1437:

As a wvw-focused player who’s endured months of stealth+culling nonsense, I love this thread. The wolf came out of nowhere!

Why still focus thief? Since the update a while back everyones culling

Culling is of course a huge problem, but in small-scale battles I don’t find it to be a factor when fighting other classes. For thieves however, it’s a big advantage. It’s like a bug that allows one of the strongest skills of some other class to activate way more frequently than intended. I’d love for there to be a bug in WvW that allowed Rangers to have 3 wolves active at all times, and for it not to be fixed for months and months

Doggie.3184:

slingblade.1437:

As a wvw-focused player who’s endured months of stealth+culling nonsense, I love this thread. The wolf came out of nowhere!

Why still focus thief? Since the update a while back everyones culling

Because thieves can leverage culling the best.

gimmethegepgun.1284:

tigirius.9014:

Royce Melborn.3276:

Maybe it was smelling you? Time for a shower?
Seriously though, that would be nice balance for stealth… if Ranger’s pets could sort of “smell” you.

The elephant in the room tried this, it didn’t work. MMO history ftw.

And the elephant also implemented stealth at all.
Didn’t work there either.
Just like everyone else that tried it.

Actually they’ve kept stealth as it was since the beginning, and it worked just fine. Limiting stealth the way this game has done doesn’t actually work and causes more problems then it fixes.

frans.8092:

It’s a buff really, you now have a target to C&D on while making your get-away. No need to equip Shadow Refuge anymore, safer too, without the house mark. The ranger might be annoyed that his pet is having a will of its own but they can always complain on the forum. The ranger forum. Or would they still come here, “Thiefs steal our pets, this has to stop” ….

You’re aware concious ranger’s can juke their pet to mindkitten with premeditated CnD’s, to waste ini?
I’ve done this on Rank 30/40+ Thieves in spvp on my ranger for kittens.
Making em waste 6 ini initially than another 6/4 on the actual cnd. Combined with pets not loosing aggro now it’s more delicious than it was before. Only thing is now I can fight someone else while a warrior fights the thief, and my pet helps him the entire time. Being essentially in two places at once against even target break.
I’ve already noticed swapping to my ranger how much more damage thieves are taking, since in practice pet’s still do end up hitting thieves even when they cnd off em, due their reaction spd now.

ensoriki.5789:

You’re aware concious ranger’s can juke their pet to mindkitten with premeditated CnD’s, to waste ini?

By juke you mean hit F3 to change the pet’s direction?

I would assume F3 removes the thief from the pet’s aggro table, so you’d have to re-acquire the target anyway then hit F1, assuming the pet is on passive. If that’s correct, I believe that would nullify the new nerf to stealth in those instances. In other words, once your pet jukes, it’s up to you to find and target the thief again, without assistance from the pet. Again, that’s just theorizing based on a couple of assumptions I have not tested.

That’s when used via stealthed. However there is no reason to do that, as the pet goes after them as soon as they come out of stealthed otherwise it tries to return to you as per normal. When they come out it goes back to chase them with it’s redonculus long leash range. This can mean keeping track of a thief is easier and makes reselecting easier as well because of it. At which pt when the pet goes out again, you can feint its rush to waste a CnD and start him off at a disadvantage. Means jack if they’re using D/P though or aren’t stealth based (S/P, P/P, SB)

ensoriki.5789:

That’s when used via stealthed. However there is no reason to do that, as the pet goes after them as soon as they come out of stealthed otherwise it tries to return to you as per normal. When they come out it goes back to chase them with it’s redonculus long leash range. This can mean keeping track of a thief is easier and makes reselecting easier as well because of it. At which pt when the pet goes out again, you can feint its rush to waste a CnD and start him off at a disadvantage. Means jack if they’re using D/P though or aren’t stealth based (S/P, P/P, SB)

I usually leave the ranger alone because when I pass by Fido is on a leash and doesn’t bother me much.

Not that Fido in on a rampage, that kittening ranger is going to get stomped.