Guild Wars 2

Shukran.4851:

Incurafy.6329:

Shukran.4851:

Issues.5789:

Volrath.1473:

stun breakers…

But hey if you want to go own noobs in hot joins be my guest, in competitive pvp a S/P thief is a free kill.

Specially if you use all those utility skills leaving you without a stun breaker or a defensive utility of any kind.

and btw take a chill pill i’m being polite with you, there’s no need for aggressiveness.
Opinions are different you got your’s i got mine, i respect yours pls respect mine.

I only play WvW, I don’t use all those, I’m just simply stating that there are ways to restrict people. I’m not upset; you simply said it has no use in PvP; where I disagree and say it can be utilized by punishing people who res and making more people follow you and taking aggro off your party.

you only play wvwvw so

Please stop posting about the Thief class..

if u think pw is useful in pvp environment.
thx

Actually, it is useful, so stop being such an arrogant kitten and get off your pedestal.

Kasama.8941:

Why would you want more Hundred Blades or Mug+Backstab type effects? I don’t get this obsession with being able to down your opponent in 2 seconds. It’s makes for really boring fights. I would rather have they increased the stun duration to 1 second, or added a ½ second immobilize on top of the stun.

Why on earth would they add an immobilise to it? A stun is a daze combined with an immobilise so adding the immobilise condition would be absolutely pointless.

sorry but i need a video of some pro thief who carry his team with pw. in Tpvp. and im not on a pedestal. i only state what the game offer to thief right now. and pw is not in the list if u want to win.

but from your signature i can’t expect more than an advocate of lost causes.
gg no re

“gg no re”

You most certainly are on a pedestal, my friend, and it’s quite easy for anyone to see that.

I don’t have a video on hand of a S/P Thief in tPvP but, as I said earlier in the thread, I run PW as a roamer when my team needs the extra control over frontloaded burst and I do perfectly fine, so I’m arguing from experience here.

Your experience clearly says otherwise, but try not to make such ridiculous blanket statemenets about a set or skill, especially when acting like you know more than anyone else.

As for my signature, it doesn’t mean jack kitten, it could say anything and my argument would remain as valid.

Incurafy.6329:

Shukran.4851:

Incurafy.6329:

Shukran.4851:

Issues.5789:

Volrath.1473:

stun breakers…

But hey if you want to go own noobs in hot joins be my guest, in competitive pvp a S/P thief is a free kill.

Specially if you use all those utility skills leaving you without a stun breaker or a defensive utility of any kind.

and btw take a chill pill i’m being polite with you, there’s no need for aggressiveness.
Opinions are different you got your’s i got mine, i respect yours pls respect mine.

I only play WvW, I don’t use all those, I’m just simply stating that there are ways to restrict people. I’m not upset; you simply said it has no use in PvP; where I disagree and say it can be utilized by punishing people who res and making more people follow you and taking aggro off your party.

you only play wvwvw so

Please stop posting about the Thief class..

if u think pw is useful in pvp environment.
thx

Actually, it is useful, so stop being such an arrogant kitten and get off your pedestal.

Kasama.8941:

Why would you want more Hundred Blades or Mug+Backstab type effects? I don’t get this obsession with being able to down your opponent in 2 seconds. It’s makes for really boring fights. I would rather have they increased the stun duration to 1 second, or added a ½ second immobilize on top of the stun.

Why on earth would they add an immobilise to it? A stun is a daze combined with an immobilise so adding the immobilise condition would be absolutely pointless.

sorry but i need a video of some pro thief who carry his team with pw. in Tpvp. and im not on a pedestal. i only state what the game offer to thief right now. and pw is not in the list if u want to win.

but from your signature i can’t expect more than an advocate of lost causes.
gg no re

“gg no re”

You most certainly are on a pedestal, my friend, and it’s quite easy for anyone to see that.

I don’t have a video on hand of a S/P Thief in tPvP but, as I said earlier in the thread, I run PW as a roamer when my team needs the extra control over frontloaded burst and I do perfectly fine, so I’m arguing from experience here.

Your experience clearly says otherwise, but try not to make such ridiculous blanket statemenets about a set or skill, especially when acting like you know more than anyone else.

As for my signature, it doesn’t mean jack kitten, it could say anything and my argument would remain as valid.

Don’t bother wasting your time with him he’s just a troll. He can’t even read properly. He’s talking about carrying a team in Tpvp when I say I only use PW in WvW. His doctor clearly had some slippery hands during his birth.

i’ve never used PW only because im stuck in place.. would people not dodge and leave us vaunerable with this?

Issues.5789:

Did you even read the thread at all? It was nerfed because quickness was alongside PW made it OP, now that quickness is only 50%, we should get our initial damage back from PW.

Did a dev come out and say this, or are you just guessing?

Incurafy.6329:

Kasama.8941:

Why would you want more Hundred Blades or Mug+Backstab type effects? I don’t get this obsession with being able to down your opponent in 2 seconds. It’s makes for really boring fights. I would rather have they increased the stun duration to 1 second, or added a ½ second immobilize on top of the stun.

Why on earth would they add an immobilise to it? A stun is a daze combined with an immobilise so adding the immobilise condition would be absolutely pointless.

Because it will give you an extra condition stack, meaning that if your opponent uses a stun breaker, the immobilize will still stick. Thereby it becomes harder to escape.

Probably one of my fav attacks, I can hit with half of it and usually the person runs away and I steal to finish the damage. Chaining it with head shot also puts a lot of pressure as they lose the ability to do anything consecutively, its a scary thought every few seconds losing control.

I also love using it on downed players that I want to damage rather than stomp, as I’m invulnerable doing so and it cleaves.

Could use a small buff imo, nothing major.

Kasama.8941: Did a dev come out and say this, or are you just guessing?

I’m not gonna go looking for it; but I’m sure at a state of a game talk I remember seeing it was brought up. When quickness and pistolwhip were combined; it almost made it impossible to stunbreak because it was so fast; and since Anet didn’t nerf quickness at the time, they decided to mitigate the damage. Now they reverted quickness back to 50%, so it just seems logical to.

Issues.5789:

Kasama.8941: Did a dev come out and say this, or are you just guessing?

I’m not gonna go looking for it; but I’m sure at a state of a game talk I remember seeing it was brought up. When quickness and pistolwhip were combined; it almost made it impossible to stunbreak because it was so fast; and since Anet didn’t nerf quickness at the time, they decided to mitigate the damage. Now they reverted quickness back to 50%, so it just seems logical to.

Well if they came out and said, that quickness was the sole reason for the nerf, then I agree that the previous damage output should be retested in game.

Kasama.8941:

Issues.5789:

Kasama.8941: Did a dev come out and say this, or are you just guessing?

I’m not gonna go looking for it; but I’m sure at a state of a game talk I remember seeing it was brought up. When quickness and pistolwhip were combined; it almost made it impossible to stunbreak because it was so fast; and since Anet didn’t nerf quickness at the time, they decided to mitigate the damage. Now they reverted quickness back to 50%, so it just seems logical to.

Well if they came out and said, that quickness was the sole reason for the nerf, then I agree that the previous damage output should be retested in game.

As I said, I’m sure it was mentioned somewhere or the combination of the two were considered overpowered. I’m not gonna go looking for it as I couldn’t be bothered. This thread has had 50+ responses and no reply from Arena net. There is practically 20+ things wrong with thief and still nothing is being fixed; except last patch they worried about fixing the voices of the baby quaggans so they could sound proper and not like the adult quaggans. I’m so glad they implemented such a ground breaking change, and took time out of their busy days to help those in worry of baby quaggan voice boxes.

Takato.4976:

Probably one of my fav attacks, I can hit with half of it and usually the person runs away and I steal to finish the damage.

The problem is that just auto attacking would get you more damage than in the same time, not hamper your mobility, and either apply two conditions or set you up to do so. Even if all of PW hits it isn’t that great, if you’re only landing half of the hits it is just flat-out bad.

Tulisin.6945:

Takato.4976:

Probably one of my fav attacks, I can hit with half of it and usually the person runs away and I steal to finish the damage.

The problem is that just auto attacking would get you more damage than in the same time, not hamper your mobility, and either apply two conditions or set you up to do so. Even if all of PW hits it isn’t that great, if you’re only landing half of the hits it is just flat-out bad.

But half of the hits and not being damaged the whole time is still nice.
As you inflicted damage to the enemy while taking none, and recharging your cooldowns. I typically run withdraw, and use it multiple times easily while avoiding a lot of damage with PW/Black Powder and withdraw itself.

It’s also capable of inturupting, not fast, but predicting rather than reacting to the enemy gets you some nice inturupts that can potentially win you that little fight.

Kinda like inturupting infuse health in GW1, something a lot of fellow mesmers/rangers did with very nice predictions ( diversion anyone ? ), effectively removing one of the monk’s key heals ( or prots ? lol ).
Basically, if I can predict when the enemy will heal, I can save an easy headshot for 3-4 seconds later when the second attempt goes off.

Now I’m not saying pistol whip is necessarily good.
I just find uses outside of raw damage.