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Posted by: Bullitt.8051

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Is there really any use for the pistol whip skill anymore? I was just in orr testing it out vs. the auto attack and the risen mobs I was testing against died in 17 seconds (lvl 80 magic find gear) whether I was spamming pistol whip or just using auto attack. I know that pistol whip has the stun, but why not just use head shot as it costs less initiative? This is a strange change that I’m not quite understanding, am I missing something? It seems that they should have just removed pistol whip and replaced it with something else maybe.

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Posted by: Cris Croix.2370

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PW is awesome as an interrupt, although slightly slower than Headshot, and it causes you to evade during the swing animation. Don’t forget that on-crit effects will have more chances to apply in a smaller window to time than it takes to execute 9 regular sword swings.

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Posted by: Devildoc.6721

Devildoc.6721

PW is awesome as an interrupt, although slightly slower than Headshot, and it causes you to evade during the swing animation. Don’t forget that on-crit effects will have more chances to apply in a smaller window to time than it takes to execute 9 regular sword swings.

Remember, all of those on crit procs have internal cooldowns, specifically because of skills like pistol whip, unload, and 100b.

Sigil of earth used to not and pistol whip could proc bleeds like nobody’s business (unload as well) then they added the internal 2s cooldown and the sigil became worthless.

Zapp – 80 Asura Afromancer

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Posted by: Bullitt.8051

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Sure the evade on pistol whip is ok but it seems like black powder and auto attack are the better option now, the blind lasts longer and is aoe. I just don’t see a good reason to use pistol whip, maybe it’d be ok if they removed the initiative cost, but even at that I’m not sure.

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Posted by: Cris Croix.2370

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Remember, all of those on crit procs have internal cooldowns, specifically because of skills like pistol whip, unload, and 100b.

Sigil of earth used to not and pistol whip could proc bleeds like nobody’s business (unload as well) then they added the internal 2s cooldown and the sigil became worthless.

I getting on to the fact that there are more opportunities in a smaller window of time to proc any given on-crit effect in contrast to, say, the auto-attack chain. Of course that’s all dependent upon the individuals’ crit chance; with a high enough chance you’ll more than likely end up critting on your auto-attack anyways, meaning more damage overall(with the recent nerf) that can be done on the move and with less damage variation. The evade alone is worth it imho though.

Sure the evade on pistol whip is ok but it seems like black powder and auto attack are the better option now, the blind lasts longer and is aoe. I just don’t see a good reason to use pistol whip, maybe it’d be ok if they removed the initiative cost, but even at that I’m not sure.

Buuuuuut, don’t forget that Black Powder only pulses on targets that stay within the AoE. Making it only useful against stationary PvP(bad melee players) or PvE mobs. Worst case scenario, you can use a Pistol Whip on thin air to dodge incoming ranged attacks as you wait for your endurance to regen.

(edited by Cris Croix.2370)

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Posted by: Devildoc.6721

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It’s not the best evade skill because there are gaps where you’re still rooted and vulnerable.

I’d never use pistol whip just for the evade, chances are you’re still taking hits, it’s 1s of evade in a 2.6s skill that roots you for 1.85s.

The evade was only put in place to counteract how vulnerable you are while rooted.

They didn’t want to give a skill with that kind of damage mobility (just like blurred frenzy and hundred blades), but they realized how vulnerable a thief is while rooted (like blurred frenzy, again, but blurred frenzy’s evade is better)

Zapp – 80 Asura Afromancer

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Posted by: Cris Croix.2370

Cris Croix.2370

I never said it was the best evade skill, just that it would temporarily suffice in the WORST CASE SCENARIO. There are definitely better skills to use, there’s no question about that, but if there was literally nothing else available, why the hell not?

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Posted by: Devildoc.6721

Devildoc.6721

That’s a gamble I wouldn’t take if it’s a 1 shot hit, count yourself lucky if you DO evade that hit.

Zapp – 80 Asura Afromancer

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Posted by: Candiru.5279

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The only thing which is op is quickness combined with pistol whip….

Why they not just nerf the quickness/frenzy skills in this game instead of hurting ppl which use pistol whip without those skills?!