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Posted by: pantsforbirds.9032

pantsforbirds.9032

Hey guys I made a video to communicate some of the concerns i have about the effects of the new stun changes on pistolwhip.

I really think the changes had some unintended (and harmful) results on pistolwhip.

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Posted by: ensoriki.5789

ensoriki.5789

The stun came off before you actually hit with your sword.
if someone spams their dodge key like a rabid beast, they can avoid every swing.

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Posted by: magom.3275

magom.3275

Now just is a interruption skill, a looong casting and spending interruption skill.

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Posted by: Talbin.8305

Talbin.8305

Yes Ryan…thank you for your excellent insights.

Anyway…kind of a bummer about how that hurts S/P builds. I had just gotten comfortable with it. Before i was running TeamBattleAXE’s (Think that was his name anyway) P/P stealthfree build. Lots of fun but was enjoying the change. I wonder if devs will give pistol whip any consideration…or if they really think it’s working as intended.

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Posted by: pantsforbirds.9032

pantsforbirds.9032

So you made a video whining about not being able to spam pistol whip anymore effectively like it was being abused before the para fix.

Hold on, got something for ya

Hey man, i remember you from the dueling servers. I know you’re upset that i beat you in so many duels, but you have to admit this doesn’t seem to be intended. You can literally dodge the first hit of the flurry after you have been stunned. The skill has a long enough cast time for you to easily dodge the stun, but after the patch you can eat the stun and then just dodge out of the flurry before the first hit even makes contact.

You obviously don’t like me (since you went on an angry rant and told me how crappy i am at this game every time i beat you in a duel), but the video shows pretty clearly that pistolwhip needs some kind of adjustment. Anet could even just adjust the aftercast between the stunpart and the flurry part of the skill and i would be happy.

What? I don’t remember ever dueling you and I don’t go to dueling servers… I only play in WvW… Maybe I fought you there?

I tagged you as “very angry dueler” and you said it was your first time in a dueling server and that you only played wvw when i fought you the first time

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Posted by: Ryan.8367

Ryan.8367

Oh ok, that makes sense then. Wanna duel me now since you can’t spam pistol whip stuns with para and I can reveal you now?

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Posted by: DrWhom.3105

DrWhom.3105

Why do people keep mentioning pistol whip with sigil of paralyzation? It didn’t even increase the stun duration of pistol whip under the old system.

All stuns were rounded up before today. A half second stun (what pistol whip is) would round up to one second even with the +15% from para. The problem was a 1 second stun with +15% duration would round up to 2 seconds. So please stop mentioning it in threads about pistol whip.

Anyway good video, hopefully we get a response on whether this was intended. JSharp posted about buffing warriors because hammer would be nerfed by the paralyzation fix, where were our S/P Thief buffs huh??

MAG

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Posted by: pantsforbirds.9032

pantsforbirds.9032

Oh ok, that makes sense then. Wanna duel me now since you can’t spam pistol whip stuns with para and I can reveal you now?

I never turn down a duel. It’s one of my favorite parts of the game

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Posted by: pantsforbirds.9032

pantsforbirds.9032

Why do people keep mentioning pistol whip with sigil of paralyzation? It didn’t even increase the stun duration of pistol whip under the old system.

All stuns were rounded up before today. A half second stun (what pistol whip is) would round up to one second even with the +15% from para. The problem was a 1 second stun with +15% duration would round up to 2 seconds. So please stop mentioning it in threads about pistol whip.

Anyway good video, hopefully we get a response on whether this was intended. JSharp posted about buffing warriors because hammer would be nerfed by the paralyzation fix, where were our S/P Thief buffs huh??

Yeah.. I didn’t do a super great job of explaining that in the video, but I did attempt to point that out. I’m really hoping to get a red response so I’ll at least know whether or not they did it intentionally

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Posted by: KaiserCX.7103

KaiserCX.7103

This does seem rather not good considering the DPS for PW is just slightly higher than auto-attack DPS if I recall correctly. I would like to see the after cast speed increased and allow you to cancel out of it with dodge and/or auto-attack even if it’s just the first two or three slashes to avoid cancelling right as the skill is done (even though you can do that with movement already, but there’s still the delay before doing an actual attack after cancelling it with movement instead of going right into it). This way you’re not really meant to land the entirety of the PW the first few tries, but as the fight goes on and you keep track of their endurance you’ll be able to land more of it.

As stated before the DPS isn’t really that much better than AA damage (sorry I don’t have the math to back it up, I just recall people doing the math before), so I don’t think this would make it OP, although only testing will truly tell.

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Posted by: Reiko.1560

Reiko.1560

Oh ok, that makes sense then. Wanna duel me now since you can’t spam pistol whip stuns with para and I can reveal you now?

You lost to PW thief? LMFAO

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Posted by: pantsforbirds.9032

pantsforbirds.9032

Oh ok, that makes sense then. Wanna duel me now since you can’t spam pistol whip stuns with para and I can reveal you now?

You lost to PW thief? LMFAO

To be fair I don’t lose duels too often! Plus shortbow is a major part of the build

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Posted by: dDuff.3860

dDuff.3860

Oh ok, that makes sense then. Wanna duel me now since you can’t spam pistol whip stuns with para and I can reveal you now?

You lost to PW thief? LMFAO

PW is a good spec and fine for dueling. It was…

Faeleth