Guild Wars 2

Please switch Last Refuge with Infusion of Shadow, Last Refuse should be an optional trait for people with no other access to stealth.

I reckon that’s pretty OP, you’d be essentially getting another minor trait (replacing the previous useless trait). I believe it should be replaced with “3 sec reveal” which is reasonable considering anet is most likely reverting the reveal nerf regardless.

Edit: Minor Trait lol.

TakaEagle.9486:

I reckon that’s pretty OP, you’d be essentially getting another master trait (replacing the previous useless trait). I believe it should be replaced with “3 sec reveal” which is reasonable considering anet is most likely reverting the reveal nerf regardless.

Infusion of Shadow is a Minor trait buddy.

I don’t care what it’s replaced with, as long as it’s gone. Mesmers get to CHOOSE if they want a stupid trait like this, why can’t we? I would say that out of the current 6 Adept traits, IoS does fit the spot the most. Either that or the mediocre III regen (which would also kinda fit since it’s also a Healing tree).

i want vigor on critical
mesmer have
guardian have
elementalist have

I think it should instead give 5 stacks of confusion for 5 seconds to enemies around you instead of stealth, but that’s just my opinion.

If they were going to replace it with another trait, Patience would be better. It’s too crappy for anyone to waste points on it.
I’d rather see a new effect though, like Protection or Vigor on Stealth.

Rafahil.2857:

I think it should instead give 5 stacks of confusion for 5 seconds to enemies around you instead of stealth, but that’s just my opinion.

… do you have any idea how much damage 5 stacks of confusion does on a condi build?
Combined with condi duration and 3s revealed this would basically make every Thief stack confusion as hard as Tarban…

Daecollo.9578:

Please switch Last Refuge with Infusion of Shadow, Last Refuse should be an optional trait for people with no other access to stealth.

Ok that made me giggle, just shows what your subconscious thinks about this trait, lol

If IoS is a minor, there will be problems with perma-blind in combination with Cloaked in Shadows and OP condition removal in combination with Shadow’s Embrace.

We don’t need to give Anet anymore reason to nerf our profession. Although the intention is sound, this “solution” will bring more problem for us.

Personally I think they should swap volley and killshot.

Sir Vincent III.1286:

Daecollo.9578:

Please switch Last Refuge with Infusion of Shadow, Last Refuse should be an optional trait for people with no other access to stealth.

Ok that made me giggle, just shows what your subconscious thinks about this trait, lol

If IoS is a minor, there will be problems with perma-blind in combination with Cloaked in Shadows and OP condition removal in combination with Shadow’s Embrace.

We don’t need to give Anet anymore reason to nerf our profession. Although the intention is sound, this “solution” will bring more problem for us.

Why? We are already a horrible class.

Daecollo.9578:

Why? We are already a horrible class.

Thieves are not horrible, but we could use some love in certain areas.

I played wvw this morning and I didn’t die once, except the 80 man zerg that caught me with shadowstep and refuge down from a previous fight.

I was able to easily take a supply camp while killing a wells necro, glass d/d ele, and crap ranger. All were 80, they just weren’t very good players. All while guards and supply camp veteran boss trying to kill me as well.

I lived simply because of blind field and the ability to stealth whenever I wanted…

swinsk.6410:

Daecollo.9578:

Why? We are already a horrible class.

Thieves are not horrible, but we could use some love in certain areas.

I played wvw this morning and I didn’t die once, except the 80 man zerg that caught me with shadowstep and refuge down from a previous fight.

I was able to easily take a supply camp while killing a wells necro, glass d/d ele, and crap ranger. All were 80, they just weren’t very good players. All while guards and supply camp veteran boss trying to kill me as well.

I lived simply because of blind field and the ability to stealth whenever I wanted…

Horribly limited.