Guild Wars 2

The cast time on ir is so bad and was never an issue in wvw and pve. It also make S/x builds very un-enjoyable its so awkward and clumsy.

I think they should delete shadow return and come up with something new. I don’t use it anymore…

Shadow Return V2: “Teleport back to your location gaining stealth, you are immobilized”
Cast time: 0, Stealth time: 1s, Immobilized time: 1s.

Shadow Return V3: “Retreat back and launch your foe”

Shadow Return V4: “Evade around your enemy, if you break a stun you cure a condition”

Look how much creativity came in 3 seconds thinking. Do something like this instead of giving kittenthekittening cast times on thief skills IN AN ACTION MMO

Menzies, stop bro!
They are systematically nerfing Thieves into the ground. The nerf on Shadow Return has been such a good hit for Anet!
I mean, who really wants to get out of a stun anyway? Aren’t we supposed to be lootbags when using non-stealth builds anyway?

The thing is, when we use more stealth builds, we will get more cries of new players which will result in nerfs to stealth! Don’t try to rob them of their next nerf target, have a heart! :P

The very idea that the Sword/Dagger combo was OP is a complete oversite on the skill needed to run the build in the first place. The cast time on the return has made it completely unusable in WvW and has stripped the sword as being a mobile weapon set for thieves. Its not like the sword return broke the stun… It just gave thieves the ability to not be a free lootbag. You might as well have replaced the skill completely… as it serves no purpose anymore. Sword/dagger was far from being unbeatable… and now thanks to the latest nerf, Anet has made the sword/dagger completely unplayble. Guess the only thing thieves have left now is Dagger/X. Enjoy all the perma blind builds… since that is the only thing thieves have left. (Until Anet just deletes the thief class cause everyone Q_Q) Thanks Anet. Way to make the game “balanced.” Way to take a balanced class ( although perma stealth was a bit much) and make it second rate. Hope your issuing refunds for every thief that wasted their time getting Bolt.

Just delete thief from the game.

Well its not like there aren’t spec we can use, its just frustrating that they had to wreck our sword ;(

Fix this already.

the bad fix is bad, but the suggestions in this thread make it sound like there was no problem with sword thieves having basically unlimited stunkbreak. it was a problem.

better suggestion: increase the amount of evade frames on s/d-3.

the intitiative nerf reduces the spamability of s/d-3 such that you really cant just spam 3 to win, but the evade remains so short its unreliable as a damage avoidance mechanic. if it was longer, it could take the role of the former shadow return (avoiding a big hit).