Guild Wars 2

Hello all,

Has anyone noticed how the Tier 2 Major Trait Bountiful Theft does not give the player and all nearby allies vigor for 15 seconds if the player does not actually steal from another player?
I use Bountiful Theft quite a bit in conjunction with Thrill of the Crime. I usually Steal when relocating (targeted on nothing) just for Swiftness. I noticed yesterday that I should also be allocated Vigor on top of the 3 from TotC. Imagine a Thief traited in Acrobatics and Trickery: Swiftness on evade. 3 evades. Steal for vigor for 15 seconds and swiftness for 10. Vigor = more evade = more swiftness. I would like to see this addressed as I can be moving around maps much quicker with perma-swiftness.

Bountiful Theft says this:
Stealing grants you and all nearby allies vigor for 15 seconds. Up to two boons are also ripped from your target and granted to nearby allies.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Bountiful_Theft

This could just as easily be turned around by saying TotC has an issue in that it gives you buffs if you don’t actually steal from a player. I mean, you didn’t actually steal anything at that point.

Nettle.9025:

This could just as easily be turned around by saying TotC has an issue in that it gives you buffs if you don’t actually steal from a player. I mean, you didn’t actually steal anything at that point.

While that is true, one could also say that if I didn’t Steal anything, Steal should not be placed back on its cooldown.

In this case the wording is just a little… vague. There’s basically two states: Using a skill, and a skill successfully doing whatever it is supposed to do.

Thrill of the crime says: “When you steal […]” it is not saying or implying that the stealing has or does not have to be successful. And that’s not important, since because of the wording it is simply about using the skill. When you steal. When you use the skill. So everything is alright here.

Bountiful Theft on the other hand states: “Stealing grants […]”. Now that’s vague. It is about the action itself, and does not say or imply anything about using the skill. Then again it also states: “Up to two boons are also ripped from your target […]” implying that the skill actually has to connect. Since this is the only hint we get, I would say that not gaining vigor when not connecting is the right behaviour.

Then again the definitions are rather vague. So there is still the off chance of it being a bug.

one could then also say that if thats so then if you have no target you should not tele:)
(i know its ment to be used so ou tele even without a target)
but if it says Stealing and not steal (useing the wors as the skill) then if you steal something from someone you get something as our stealing something but if ou dont target anyone your not stealing anything