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Posted by: Vaikenn.8371

Vaikenn.8371

Hi everyone, I Would Like OpinionS On This Build I Theorycrafted. ItsMainly For Dungeons And Events And Dabble In Wvw.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQRAqa8alYmSOHcy5E95Ex2jdCUe6pgsiVTBNxJA-jQyAYrioRTWUGpMwEhAl+KiGbhrIasqFMlJRUt/oIa1SBMqyI-e

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Posted by: Stx.4857

Stx.4857

It’s not bad… the only thing is, you are losing 10% damage just for ricochet, which is a bad trade imo.

Not a fan of eagle runes but maybe you need to precision with all that valk gear. I personally like ruby orbs because they are cheap.

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Posted by: Vaikenn.8371

Vaikenn.8371

As In The Trait Or The Trait Points Could Be Allocated elsewhere

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Posted by: Imagi.4561

Imagi.4561

It’s bad form to ask for feedback and then belittle or discount the feedback you do receive. Also, Stx did give you an opinion on traits: he said he wouldn’t choose Ricochet.

In my opinion, you’d be far better off with Combined Training (X) in the Deadly Arts line to help your Unload spam, instead of Sundering Strikes (VI). I’d also look at skills to benefit signets, since you’re running a signet build.

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Posted by: Scorpio Spork.9568

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I feel like you’re missing out on a lot of utility by taking only signets. I would either swap some traits to boost your signets (like Imagi suggested) or drop the signets for more useful utilities like Shadow Refuge and Smoke Screen.

I also think you need more condition removal. Signet of Agility isn’t enough, especially without reducing the cooldown. You can’t always rely on Guardians to clear your stuff, especially if you’re sitting in the back.

Honestly, thief builds like this bring nothing but dps. We have a lot of utility available to us that can significantly boost a group’s success rate and clear speed without sacrificing any significant dps. Why not make use of that?

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Posted by: Vaikenn.8371

Vaikenn.8371

I Didn’t Belittle Him, I WasConfused On Where His Adjustment WaS. And I Just Put The SigneTs In For Slot I’m Open For Utility Suggestions. And What Ate Some Ways I Can Make Use Of The Thief Support, That’s What I’m Asking Ultimately.

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Posted by: Scorpio Spork.9568

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What Ate Some Ways I Can Make Use Of The Thief Support, That’s What I’m Asking Ultimately.

Here’s my PvE build: http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fYQQNAsaVlcmaPneS6E95Ex2jeKUeyVooePI7YDLA-jQCBYLERjkFDRjKAM5RZNBSQsMsIasqFYqSER1eDFRrWKAzVGB-e

Shadow Refuge: use it to rez allies or sneak the party past groups.

Smoke Screen: reflects projectiles and creates a smoke combo field (cluster bomb spam for more group stealth).

Shadow Step: I always keep a stun breaker, and the return cures conditions.

Signet of Malice: with my traits, I can use it to gain 6 initiative every 12 seconds, and I like having a heal with a short cooldown. Withdraw would also work, but you’d only gain 4 initiative every 15 seconds, but it would also free up a trait. If you take another signet, Signets of Power might be a better trait choice than Furious Retaliation.

Steal when you’re standing next to allies for AoE fury, swiftness, might, and vigor.

Watch when you burn initiative, so you can make use of the minor traits First Strikes and Lead Attacks. But make sure you burn some initiative just before you heal (by dropping Black Powder or Cluster Bomb spamming in combo fields).

Your highest dps is from auto-attacking with sword while maintaining max initiative. Only swap to short bow for Cluster Bomb spam in combo fields or if you absolutely cannot maintain melee range. Using Omnomberry Ghosts will help keep your health up. Use Shadow Return (either the sword or utility skill) to clear conditions. Your position in combat is key to staying alive.

Ricochet pistol builds are much safer, but you’ll provide more dps with sword if you can stay alive. Regardless of which weapons you use, I’d still consider the utility skills I listed above.

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Posted by: Stx.4857

Stx.4857

As In The Trait Or The Trait Points Could Be Allocated elsewhere

What I meant was, if you took 5 out of trickery, and put those in deadly arts, you would gain 10% damage. 10% damage > ricochet.

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