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Posted by: philheat.3956

philheat.3956

1) Elite spec not announced. Probably it will be the last (before of after the Druid) This means less time to improve/test it, less BWE.

2) Anti stealth skills everywhere.

Revenant – Gaze Of Darkness, Unyelding Anguish (anti sr- anti bp)
Guardian – Light’s Judgement
Ranger – Sick’em, taunt
Engi – Lock on, Analyze

Stealth needs some counter but is the main defensive thief source. If Anet doesn’t compensate with something else, thief will slowing die.

3) Not other build viable except for d/p. D/p itself is fine but has lost a lot of 1vs1 potentiality relegating thief in a +1 or decap role (and it’s not always possible, it depends a lot of your team strength, how solid it is)

Just to clarify this, I love to play Thief and i don’t want to play an OP class but a versatile class. Atm is not possible, too limited role, there is a lack of defense and builds.

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Posted by: Phil.8901

Phil.8901

It’s a pretty accurate statement.

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Posted by: Seiroxena.6350

Seiroxena.6350

1) Elite spec not announced. Probably it will be the last (before of after the Druid) This means less time to improve/test it, less BWE.

2) Anti stealth skills everywhere.

Revenant – Gaze Of Darkness, Unyelding Anguish (anti sr- anti bp)
Guardian – Light’s Judgement
Ranger – Sick’em, taunt
Engi – Lock on, Analyze

Stealth needs some counter but is the main defensive thief source. If Anet doesn’t compensate with something else, thief will slowing die.

3) Not other build viable except for d/p. D/p itself is fine but has lost a lot of 1vs1 potentiality relegating thief in a +1 or decap role (and it’s not always possible, it depends a lot of your team strength, how solid it is)

Just to clarify this, I love to play Thief and i don’t want to play an OP class but a versatile class. Atm is not possible, too limited role, there is a lack of defense and builds.

Yea

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Posted by: Sir Vincent III.1286

Sir Vincent III.1286

When you see a Pro-player switched from Thief to Engi during Finals —- it’s over.

http://sirvincentiii.com ~ In the beginning…there was Tarnished Coast…
Full set of 5 unique skills for both dual-wield weapon sets: P/P and D/D – Make it happen
PvE – DD/CS/AC – If that didn’t work, roll a Reaper or Revenant.

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Posted by: Waterseer.7089

Waterseer.7089

I don’t want to play an OP class but a versatile class. Atm is not possible, too limited role, there is a lack of defense and builds.

This.

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Posted by: Cynz.9437

Cynz.9437

Well, we did get some love: F2 slot….. let’s wait another 3 years of nerfs for another QoL change xD

All is Vain~
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Posted by: Serious Thought.5394

Serious Thought.5394

You hit the nail on the head. The closer to the end of reveals they place us, the less they have to look at us before pushing HoT out. We’re like a zit that they can’t get rid of but try to lie that they are taking care of. Ready to bet our elite spec gets revealed on release day. So they don’t even have to face public opinion, they just toss our elite spec (without video) and the update together. Calling it, you read it here first.

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Posted by: Sir Vincent III.1286

Sir Vincent III.1286

You hit the nail on the head. The closer to the end of reveals they place us, the less they have to look at us before pushing HoT out. We’re like a zit that they can’t get rid of but try to lie that they are taking care of. Ready to bet our elite spec gets revealed on release day. So they don’t even have to face public opinion, they just toss our elite spec (without video) and the update together. Calling it, you read it here first.

It’s kind of a toss up between Thief and Ranger. Ranger was really terrible on release and the pet AIs were out of whack. Thief was actually functional and was a lot of fun to play on release.

So if there is a trend, Ranger may be revealed last.

http://sirvincentiii.com ~ In the beginning…there was Tarnished Coast…
Full set of 5 unique skills for both dual-wield weapon sets: P/P and D/D – Make it happen
PvE – DD/CS/AC – If that didn’t work, roll a Reaper or Revenant.

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Posted by: Serious Thought.5394

Serious Thought.5394

You hit the nail on the head. The closer to the end of reveals they place us, the less they have to look at us before pushing HoT out. We’re like a zit that they can’t get rid of but try to lie that they are taking care of. Ready to bet our elite spec gets revealed on release day. So they don’t even have to face public opinion, they just toss our elite spec (without video) and the update together. Calling it, you read it here first.

It’s kind of a toss up between Thief and Ranger. Ranger was really terrible on release and the pet AIs were out of whack. Thief was actually functional and was a lot of fun to play on release.

So if there is a trend, Ranger may be revealed last.

I haven’t been here since release, more like on the Christmas of release year (yay presents). I’m referring to now over anything else. It feels like Anet wishes they hadn’t made thieves, because for most of what I remember we have been consistently nerfed over and over. Occasional buffs which were quickly fixed or re-nerfed later. =/ Not very optimistic. We aren’t terrible yet, but if you aren’t running D/X you are probably dead. If you don’t have shortbow, you are probably dead. Not a fun state to be in right now. Assassin’s Signet got nerfed super quick, but then Ranger’s got a form of it (And I have done massive damage with Axe 4 when I used that dps signet). =/ Running out of optimism friend.

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Posted by: Sir Vincent III.1286

Sir Vincent III.1286

You hit the nail on the head. The closer to the end of reveals they place us, the less they have to look at us before pushing HoT out. We’re like a zit that they can’t get rid of but try to lie that they are taking care of. Ready to bet our elite spec gets revealed on release day. So they don’t even have to face public opinion, they just toss our elite spec (without video) and the update together. Calling it, you read it here first.

It’s kind of a toss up between Thief and Ranger. Ranger was really terrible on release and the pet AIs were out of whack. Thief was actually functional and was a lot of fun to play on release.

So if there is a trend, Ranger may be revealed last.

I haven’t been here since release, more like on the Christmas of release year (yay presents). I’m referring to now over anything else. It feels like Anet wishes they hadn’t made thieves, because for most of what I remember we have been consistently nerfed over and over. Occasional buffs which were quickly fixed or re-nerfed later. =/ Not very optimistic. We aren’t terrible yet, but if you aren’t running D/X you are probably dead. If you don’t have shortbow, you are probably dead. Not a fun state to be in right now. Assassin’s Signet got nerfed super quick, but then Ranger’s got a form of it (And I have done massive damage with Axe 4 when I used that dps signet). =/ Running out of optimism friend.

I’m simply stating that if there is a trend, it would be the Ranger to be last revealed. The reason is because it is the only profession with pet companion, thus the balancing on this profession applies to two characters instead of one. Even though the Ranger was revealed fairly early before release, the profession wasn’t ready. So if they are revealing per profession readiness, I more inclined to believe that Ranger would be last, and this is not because I am optimistic about Thief, rather I am less optimistic about Rangers.

http://sirvincentiii.com ~ In the beginning…there was Tarnished Coast…
Full set of 5 unique skills for both dual-wield weapon sets: P/P and D/D – Make it happen
PvE – DD/CS/AC – If that didn’t work, roll a Reaper or Revenant.

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Posted by: Bloodyx.5946

Bloodyx.5946

1) Elite spec not announced. Probably it will be the last (before of after the Druid) This means less time to improve/test it, less BWE.

2) Anti stealth skills everywhere.

Revenant – Gaze Of Darkness, Unyelding Anguish (anti sr- anti bp)
Guardian – Light’s Judgement
Ranger – Sick’em, taunt
Engi – Lock on, Analyze

Stealth needs some counter but is the main defensive thief source. If Anet doesn’t compensate with something else, thief will slowing die.

3) Not other build viable except for d/p. D/p itself is fine but has lost a lot of 1vs1 potentiality relegating thief in a +1 or decap role (and it’s not always possible, it depends a lot of your team strength, how solid it is)

Just to clarify this, I love to play Thief and i don’t want to play an OP class but a versatile class. Atm is not possible, too limited role, there is a lack of defense and builds.

lets be kittening real: after years of neglect like the red headed step child we are, do you think a few months of BWE input would of mattered? or would 2 weeks and 2 months be exactly the same amount of development/balancing?

mhmmmm…