Guild Wars 2

In a 1v1 situation in pvp, engineer seems to be a difficult opponent to face for me. Does anyone have any tips against engineers?

Which type of engineer and in which scenario.

As always make on yourself and learn how the class works is the best answer.

Hello there! I’m assuming you are referring to condi engis of some sort that spam nades, bombs, turrets, etc. I don’t know what build you run, but I go with S/D in pvp. Here some tricks I use:

1) Due to the fact that engis dont need a target to spam their bombs/nades on you, being stealth won’t necessarily keep you safe. They just assume you are going to attack from stealth and they drop all their aoe kitten at their feet, so avoid too close to them in stealth thinking you’re safe.

2) Always have your Sword #2 (Infiltrator’s Return) available. This means porting in from range to do your attack chain. This allows you to quickly get out to clear heavy pressure conditions.

3) Engi Toolkit #5 is a 1200 pull which they will often follow up with a hit to apply 5 stacks of confusion. The pull has a distinct animation and you should always dodge this by means of: dodge, flanking strike, disabling shot, or even withdraw. Sometimes, an engi will stealth himself to hide the pull animation, so be weary of this as well.

4) When they use toolkit #4 to block, be careful about positioning yourself next to them. Sometimes they like to hit you with TK #3 for the confusion cause thieves stand next to them waiting for block to end. Larcenous Strike can hit through blocks, so if they are blocking at low health, a good LS can secure a kill. However, don’t just spam #3 just for the unblockable attack.

5) A lot of engis like to Supply Crate thieves. When they do this, you really have 2 options.
a) Pull the fight away from their turrets to a better location. Net turret will ruin your day if you get caught to often in it. The burn from flame turret is nothing to mess with either.
b) Switch to shortbow and auto attack / Cluster bomb his turret area to clear them while still doing damage to the engi. Again, I would prioritize net turret cause it’s a kitten.

6) If you are forced to Shadow Refuge a competent engi will be saving 1 of 2 skills for this occasion. A P/S engi will most like run into your refuge and attempt to knock you out using shield #4. You have to dodge this skill or it may cost you the fight. A rifle engi may try to hit you w Rifle #4 or #5. The #4 knockback is harder to land, but still watch out for it. The #5 aoe will cover your whole SR and hits HARD coming from a power engi. I’m talking 5-7k, so if you are low health, dodge this or it’ll most likely down you.

7) A lot of the engi’s healing comes from his burst healing turret ability which also cleanses 2 condis. Executing this combo requires him to successfully detonate his turret after deploying it. By keeping poison on the engi, you can significantly reduce the first part of the heal. I always save my Steal ability to rupt their heal. When you see them dropping the turret with the blue aura, stealing will interrupt his combo and delay the second portion of healing by a good 2-5 seconds. If I open with a Steal, it should be off cooldown by the time I need it to interrupt his heal.

8) Use the shortbow for immobilizes, cluster bomb spikes to turrets, and to apply poison. It’s easy to apply pressure w auto attacks and CB’s from range while making it easier to dodge grenades.

Seeing as I’m rushed to do something at the moment, it’s all I came up with at the time. I’ll edit later for any spelling mistakes or adding more tips when I get home. Hope this helps! Feel free to message me ingame at Deejjster.3702 or Lumenel.

-Cheers!
Lumenel, Blackgate, Tempest Wolves Thief

Mayama.1854:

Which type of engineer and in which scenario.

As always make on yourself and learn how the class works is the best answer.

Sorry, I did enter a mini tournament with my guild and the 1 class that beat me was a turret Engineer I believe.

Deejjster.3702:

8) Use the shortbow for immobilizes, cluster bomb spikes to turrets, and to apply poison. It’s easy to apply pressure w auto attacks and CB’s from range while making it easier to dodge grenades.

Uh from a engi perspective here, staying at range with shortbow is a free invitation to bleed/weakness stack the thief at 1200 range. Never do this you will not win a range fight against a condi engi with elixir gun which almost any condi engi uses. He can kite you and outranges you.

About shadow refugee, if the engineer runs grenades the thief hut turns into a free invitation to nuke you. Same applies to bombs if you are close to him, at range its ok cause he needs time to walk to you.

Oh and another thing dont try to do obvious cloak & daggers you get blocked or nuked depending on the spec and kits the engi uses.

Stealth instantly if the engi uses a smoke bomb even if he uses it defensivly. He will most likley use it to stealth and nuke you.

Always assume that your first ambush does no damage so never spend to much initiative in it. Engis have way to many ways to negate damage completly.

The biggest problem for a thief is that you cant play the “force all cooldowns” game against an engineer. A three kit engi has always a burst, def or cc skill off cooldown.

Potato.7318:

Mayama.1854:

Which type of engineer and in which scenario.

As always make on yourself and learn how the class works is the best answer.

Sorry, I did enter a mini tournament with my guild and the 1 class that beat me was a turret Engineer I believe.

Lol a turret engi, call him an kitten for using a spec that is designed to not die to a single attacker. On the bright side you wont die too if you just stay at range.

Potato.7318:

Mayama.1854:

Which type of engineer and in which scenario.

As always make on yourself and learn how the class works is the best answer.

Sorry, I did enter a mini tournament with my guild and the 1 class that beat me was a turret Engineer I believe.

well if you have to fight on point, good luck.

Any thief build vs turret engineer on point is like a 1/9 matchup favor Engineer. Its really close to a hard counter if there is one.

You can’t range because of shields
You can’t melee because all the turrets are in the way.
You can’t pressure because of no stability and getting knocked around all day by accelerant packed turrets due to the above.
You can’t really damage the engineer either because the counter pressure from the turrets is far stronger than what you can dish out to the engi himself.

Mayama.1854:

Uh from a engi perspective here, staying at range with shortbow is a free invitation to bleed/weakness stack the thief at 1200 range. Never do this you will not win a range fight against a condi engi with elixir gun which almost any condi engi uses. He can kite you and outranges you.

Fighting in melee against a condi engineer is a free invitation for him to spam grenades at his feet and kill you randomly.

But let’s give engies a 6 sec 1200 range insta reveal…..

depends on the engi. turret engi can be dealt with if you have enough cleave, and most engi specs are pretty bad at cleansing condis, so when i play P/D they go down fairly easy.

BrunoBRS.5178:

depends on the engi. turret engi can be dealt with if you have enough cleave, and most engi specs are pretty bad at cleansing condis, so when i play P/D they go down fairly easy.

Dont you love that type of people that flock to “help I need advice against X” threads to show everyone how “good” they are, of course he has no problems beating engineers, even if its one of the hardest classes to beat as thief, just 2pro4u.

Mayama.1854:

BrunoBRS.5178:

depends on the engi. turret engi can be dealt with if you have enough cleave, and most engi specs are pretty bad at cleansing condis, so when i play P/D they go down fairly easy.

Dont you love that type of people that flock to “help I need advice against X” threads to show everyone how “good” they are, of course he has no problems beating engineers, even if its one of the hardest classes to beat as thief, just 2pro4u.

god forbid someone give advice to a person asking for advice.

BrunoBRS.5178:

Mayama.1854:

BrunoBRS.5178:

depends on the engi. turret engi can be dealt with if you have enough cleave, and most engi specs are pretty bad at cleansing condis, so when i play P/D they go down fairly easy.

Dont you love that type of people that flock to “help I need advice against X” threads to show everyone how “good” they are, of course he has no problems beating engineers, even if its one of the hardest classes to beat as thief, just 2pro4u.

god forbid someone give advice to a person asking for advice.

You gave zero advice, you just stated how you personaly have no problem with engineers. The two statements you gave are also pretty questionable. As stated by others a turret eni is one of the worst specs you can encounter as thief and condi bunker engi, like for example sf eles, is one of those few specs that has actually an easy time with P/D condi thieves. He outbleeds you at better range and you cant get a single cloak and dagger of if the engineer knows what he is doing.

Mayama.1854:

BrunoBRS.5178:

Mayama.1854:

BrunoBRS.5178:

depends on the engi. turret engi can be dealt with if you have enough cleave, and most engi specs are pretty bad at cleansing condis, so when i play P/D they go down fairly easy.

Dont you love that type of people that flock to “help I need advice against X” threads to show everyone how “good” they are, of course he has no problems beating engineers, even if its one of the hardest classes to beat as thief, just 2pro4u.

god forbid someone give advice to a person asking for advice.

You gave zero advice, you just stated how you personaly have no problem with engineers. The two statements you gave are also pretty questionable. As stated by others a turret eni is one of the worst specs you can encounter as thief and condi bunker engi, like for example sf eles, is one of those few specs that has actually an easy time with P/D condi thieves. He outbleeds you at better range and you cant get a single cloak and dagger of if the engineer knows what he is doing.

• turret engi: bring cleave

• most engis have poor condi cleansing, make good use of that.

that’s literally all i said, and then you leapt on me like i was some horrible snob. chill the hell out, man.

BrunoBRS.5178:

depends on the engi. turret engi can be dealt with if you have enough cleave, and most engi specs are pretty bad at cleansing condis, so when i play P/D they go down fairly easy.

That how we know Potato is not playing condition thief and hopefully conquest changes soon enough so I can fight more P/D spec.

Don’t fight him 1v1 on a point, go to another point, be more worth your time.

In a 2v1 situation, immobilize him for your partner to kill, and jump in near the end for finishing (and blocking the heal with daze on steal).

I have same problem as you,i didnt play my thief for a long time and found my self learning from scratch,wht i do if i c turret engi is go help elswhere.
But i found this 2 be a general rule i dont try to 1vs1 just pick targets that are focused already and burst them down,may be cowardly but thats how team wins im not so good in 1vs1:(
Before that priority 1 is to get LB rangers and staff ele AOEing from distance

best advice? don’t fight engis, anet makes sure every patch that thieves don’t stand a chance against any half decent engi

deda.8302:

I have same problem as you,i didnt play my thief for a long time and found my self learning from scratch,wht i do if i c turret engi is go help elswhere.
But i found this 2 be a general rule i dont try to 1vs1 just pick targets that are focused already and burst them down,may be cowardly but thats how team wins im not so good in 1vs1:(
Before that priority 1 is to get LB rangers and staff ele AOEing from distance

oy, you’re a thief, you don’t get to say “cowardly”. you say “tactical”!

I’m S/P P/P thief.
This is what I do.

- First IS then PW (of course). He ll dodge or run away.

- Second PW with Steal skill will tele me at him wherever he go.

- He get mad, start throwing things and run around lol. heal, turrets.

- But I tele back away where I started. that should burn him at least 30% hp. (He was heal)

- Swap to P/P Unload him from 900away and always move. (not eat grenades, may be some gun and fire turret still can hurt me)

- As soon as he finished being tiny (his invul thing) and I have enough Ini and HP, I switch back to S/P and do my first step.

- At this point, if he isnt down I ll take a lot of DMG from a lot of chit in there.
But I still have 2 stealth left to manage.

This isnt work on condi/bunk though.