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Posted by: messiah.1908

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Q:

venom share will share your attribute instead your allies
so if your allies got 2.5k power they will get yours 2k power?!
if so if you go full condi and will share 2k condition you will also share your 900 power?!

i couldnt verify it with my team

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Posted by: babazhook.6805

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A:

From the patch notes.

Venomous Aura:

This trait now maintains condition ownership when venoms are shared, using the thief’s condition damage AND CONDITION DURATION attributes instead of the condition damage and attributes of the player that poisoned the creature.

The thief may trigger secondary effects off of these condition applications, such as weakening an enemy with Lotus Poison when an ally poisons an enemy with a shared Spider Venom.

Healing effects, such as those from Skelk Venom or the Leeching Venoms trait, will use the THIEF’S HEALING power and POWER attributes but will continue to recognize the attacking player as both the healing source and healing target.

Basilisk Venom still treats the attacking player as the source. This was done to maintain the ability for other classes to activate on-control and on-interrupt effects such as Halting Strike when using a thief’s Basilisk Venom.

This very hard to test in game one way or another as it seems the heals and damage caused by leeching venoms do not show in the log.

This directly from the patch notes. This makes venom share VERY powerful even when not using damaging venoms. If a thief has 100 percent condition duration and shares devourer venom with 5 people all 5 of those people now have a 8 second IMMOB. If residual traited all 5 of those players now have a 12 second Immobilize.

As importantly the thief’s power and healing will apply to the Leech if Venom leech traited. IE if I use a venom now I get a 380 point heal per strike and a 370 damage per strike in current build. This will be shared with 5 other people.

Now according to the tooltip the leech for both the heal and damage can only apply ONCE per strike. That suggests to me that if I have shared 4 venoms and strike once wherein all 4 applied at the same time , I can only get that leech to trigger once rather then the 4 times for the four different venoms.

This suggests it better to dole out venoms one at a time rather then all at once if one wants to maximize leech damage and heal.

This hard to test in game as for some reason the heals and damage from leeching venom does not show in the combat log.

(edited by babazhook.6805)

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Posted by: Anymras.5729

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I think it only retains Condition ownership, so Condition Duration and Condition Damage are shared (probably overriding their own), not Power, Precision, etcetera.

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Posted by: Xytl.8659

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As far as I know it only shares your condition damage and duration, no other stats. Even then, it only uses your condi damage if yours is higher than the ally the venom is applied to.

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Posted by: messiah.1908

messiah.1908

from the wiki
“With the exception of Basilisk Venom, venoms shared by this trait will use the thief’s attributes (condition damage, healing power, etc.) instead of the player’s to whom it was applied.”

so does it replace and what is etc…?

(edited by messiah.1908)

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Posted by: Anymras.5729

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Oh, right, Healing Power. Always forget about the healing venom.

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Posted by: Noctis.5418

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it’s purely condi dmg, duration and healing power (for healing venom)
venom’s dont augment your power stat so there’s no reason for that to be shared

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Posted by: Sir Vincent III.1286

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venom share will share your attribute instead your allies
so if your allies got 2.5k power they will get yours 2k power?!
if so if you go full condi and will share 2k condition you will also share your 900 power?!

i couldnt verify it with my team

They won’t get your power instead the venom will use your condition damage to calculate the damage of condition that comes with the venom you share.

For instance, you have 300 condition damage and your team has zero. Spider Venom will be shared dealing 684 poison dmg (300 condi dmg) in 6s, instead of 504 dmg (zero condi dmg) in 6s.

Venom Share only uses your condition damage, not healing power, not condition duration, just the damage.

Given that there’s only 2 out of 6 venoms that actually deals damage, you can see how “useful” this Grandmaster Trait is.

So OP.

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