Quick Pockets and Dual-Dual Wielding

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Posted by: LordSlack.4685

LordSlack.4685

The idea is taking Quick Pockets and equipping the same weapon combo twice to maximize its effectiveness. What I mean, is equipping D/P and D/P again so you can swap whenever cd is ready for a 3 initiative bonus and continue your rotations.

This is also unique way to also maximize the “on weapon swap” sigils like Sigil of Intelligence – Your next attack after swapping to this weapon while in combat has a 100% chance to critical. Get stealthed, swap weapons to gain 3 ini, then 100% crit backstab which is basically like stuffing a Free Hidden Killer into your build every 10 seconds. The offhand weap could be a Sigil of Energy, Hydromancy, Battle etc. to recover endurance, freeze opponents, or stack a bunch of might.

Quick Pockets looks like crap on paper for a master trait unless you incorporate constant swapping into your playstyle and use the same weapon set again. This might be the most ini regen you could get every 10 seconds. Has anyone tried something like this? Sounds like a lot of fun but wanted to hear if anyone has tried it before buying the sigils.

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Posted by: Dasorine.1964

Dasorine.1964

tbh that might really be the only way to get proper use out of the trait, otherwise its at best a small reduction in penalty for utilizing the initiative system and 2 sets of weapons.

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Posted by: Taril.8619

Taril.8619

It should work (Also, you should only need a copy of 1 weapon, due to dual wielding on one weapon set and swapping to a single weapon as a secondary set will use the same weapon in the “Open” part of the second set as is equipped in the first set. For example: D/P + D would use the same Pistol in both sets)

But you’d lose out on the utility gained from a different off-set such as Shortbow (Mobility, range, AoE), S/D (Mobility, utility, crowd control, condition removal), D/P (No target stealth, AoE Blinds, Gap closers)

Also; all Sigils with a cooldown cannot proc when another Sigil is on cooldown and only one can proc at a time (The main hand one will take precedent over the off hand one) meaning you won’t be able to run with the effects of 2 “On Swap” sigils (Which is generally why Intelligence gets passed up for something like Battle + Geared/Traited Precision for more damage)

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Posted by: Auesis.7301

Auesis.7301

That trait is the bread and butter of a D/D + D/D Shaman condition unicorn build in sPvP. Endless Death Blossoms, dodgetrops (Sigil of Energy) and self-healing with SoM.

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Posted by: swinsk.6410

swinsk.6410

I really like running 20 Acro for Quick Recovery and Infiltrators signet for a second stun break. Rarely run out of init, and when you do you can be full in a matter of seconds.

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Posted by: LordSlack.4685

LordSlack.4685

Also; all Sigils with a cooldown cannot proc when another Sigil is on cooldown and only one can proc at a time (The main hand one will take precedent over the off hand one) meaning you won’t be able to run with the effects of 2 “On Swap” sigils (Which is generally why Intelligence gets passed up for something like Battle + Geared/Traited Precision for more damage)

Ah that part sucks. If you only equip D/P D like you said, does the offhand P that “remains equipped” proc the swap sigil? Still thinking if you swap to the same weapon set you could benefit from the ini regen and get the 100% crit just like Hidden Killer, but only worry about 1 “on swap” sigil on the off hand weapon.

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Posted by: Taril.8619

Taril.8619

Ah that part sucks. If you only equip D/P D like you said, does the offhand P that “remains equipped” proc the swap sigil? Still thinking if you swap to the same weapon set you could benefit from the ini regen and get the 100% crit just like Hidden Killer, but only worry about 1 “on swap” sigil on the off hand weapon.

Yes it does.

Also, you can swap to just an off-hand weapon to the same effect (D/P + /P) to reuse the main-hand weapon if you find it easier to get the off-hand weapon.

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Posted by: Sir Vincent III.1286

Sir Vincent III.1286

There are times that when you go in stealth, you get out of combat, so you may not trigger this trait.

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Posted by: Daecollo.9578

Daecollo.9578

Kind of makes me wish there was an “Auto-switch” button.

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Posted by: ChesterWing.5321

ChesterWing.5321

oh my god if you do not run sb as a thief on a offhand you have no idea what you’re doing

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Posted by: Auesis.7301

Auesis.7301

oh my god if you do not run sb as a thief on a offhand you have no idea what you’re doing

If you have to rely on Shortbow being available at all times and cannot fathom anything else, you have no idea what you’re doing.

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Posted by: Sir Vincent III.1286

Sir Vincent III.1286

oh my god if you do not run sb as a thief on a offhand you have no idea what you’re doing

I’d like to have an SB in my offhand. :P

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Posted by: WyldKat.4712

WyldKat.4712

Quick Pockets and having Sigils of Energy on a weapon in each set is the basis of the D/D evasion build. Initiative and energy on weapon swaps. Toss in Withdraw and the traits for 4 initiative and vigor on healing, add Bountiful Theft for more vigor, Uncatchable mini’trops and some Might on dodges, yeah boy!

Sorry, someone mentioned Flavor Flav today.

PS My variation on the build works great for me for fun in PvP. I’m not sure how well it would fly in PvE. WvW is riiight out.

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Posted by: Dasorine.1964

Dasorine.1964

oh my god if you do not run sb as a thief on a offhand you have no idea what you’re doing

I’d like to have an SB in my offhand. :P

Pfft you mean your not dual wielding SB? :P