Quick question about ignoring control skills.

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Posted by: NeHoMaR.9812

NeHoMaR.9812

I don’t play Thief, but I sometimes notice a Thief (on PvP) can completely ignore a knockdown without Stability on, is that a trait? I have seen a Thief ignoring Fear too, completely.

I just don’t want to review all Thief skills and traits to discover this.

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Posted by: Sir Vincent III.1286

Sir Vincent III.1286

A well timed Blind can ignore a lot of disables.

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Posted by: Deathspike.1870

Deathspike.1870

Blind or a stun breaker?

Active: Mesmer, Warrior
Inactive: Guardian, Elementalist, Ranger, Thief (ex-main)
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Posted by: Sir Vincent III.1286

Sir Vincent III.1286

Blind or a stun breaker?

Stun breaker happens after the fact, but blind completely ignores the effect.

For example, a blind Warrior will fail to interrupt a Thief from stomping them with Hammer Toss knockdown.

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Posted by: NeHoMaR.9812

NeHoMaR.9812

Hmm! I will see if “blind” is causing this, but I notice this more versus thieves, so that’s why I ask here. Example, if I play warrior, and I am downed, I use skill 2 to prevent the finish with a knockdown, 90% of times I miss it in someone without stability is a thief. It’s obvious this skill normally doesn’t work versus a guardian that has stability 24/7, but a thief never have stability. Maybe in the excitement of battle I don’t notice the blind.

I think I need to play a thief for some hours myself (need to do this with mesmer too) to learn more about how to counter.

EDIT: I was observing a thief in PvP, and he used Black Powder every single time he downed a player. All classes can blind, but only the thief can spam it without recharge time, I see.

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Posted by: Splatter Paw.7238

Splatter Paw.7238

D/p will nearly always drop the field on stomps. If it’s d/d they can trait to blind on stealth as well. Allot of the warrior skills are easy to see coming just keep them guessing don’t do the exact same chain repeatedly.

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Posted by: Dahkeus.8243

Dahkeus.8243

Yup, #1 mistake a lot of new warriors make when fighting thieves is to just stand in the black powder circle and keep swinging. When a thief does this to you, stand just outside of the circle. Your melee attacks will still land if you’re close enough.

Just be aware that when a thief casts Black Powder, you will get hit with a shot that blinds you as well. They also have a teleport skill when using D/P that blinds you as it ports to you.

In most cases, you’re better off just spamming fire on the ground with the longbow when fighting a thief anyways, lol.

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Posted by: Elm.8169

Elm.8169

Uh, yeah, if your attacks aren’t landing, blind should be the first thing you check for. You may also have noticed a ‘miss’ pop up or a blind debuff on your status bar.

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Posted by: ens.9854

ens.9854

I’m more annoyed by the downed warriors that occasionally ignore my blind field sometimes!

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Posted by: Kincaidia.3192

Kincaidia.3192

Even non-D/P thieves will blind a warrior every time – most of us run with the +movement signet that has an active ability of blind. Since warriors have a guaranteed knockdown on downed, it’s second nature for me to assume I have to blind to get the stomp. Otherwise by the time I get the second stomp in they have Venged.

Must be nice to have downed abilities like that.

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Posted by: ryan.6217

ryan.6217

Hmm! I will see if “blind” is causing this, but I notice this more versus thieves, so that’s why I ask here. Example, if I play warrior, and I am downed, I use skill 2 to prevent the finish with a knockdown, 90% of times I miss it in someone without stability is a thief. It’s obvious this skill normally doesn’t work versus a guardian that has stability 24/7, but a thief never have stability. Maybe in the excitement of battle I don’t notice the blind.

I think I need to play a thief for some hours myself (need to do this with mesmer too) to learn more about how to counter.

EDIT: I was observing a thief in PvP, and he used Black Powder every single time he downed a player. All classes can blind, but only the thief can spam it without recharge time, I see.

“I was observing a thief in PvP, and he used Black Powder every single time he downed a player. All classes can blind, but only the “thief can spam it without recharge time”, I see."

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