Guild Wars 2

I really want show my respect for players who still playing thieves on this games after so many nerfs. I almost delete my level 80 thief and then one of my friends told me that i should give him a chance. I did and I love it but is insane is like play the game in super hard mode out there, the actual meta is really tough for thieves , and after CritD damage got nerf is even worse, maybe i just started to play thief and I have poorly level of experience. When I started to play GW2 thieves was the premium class to play pvp, everybody complained about how OP thieves was, now people treat thieves like free kills. This is ridiculous. Respect for you guys , keep pushing

Finally! Some respect instead of the usual, “Teef OP! Stealth OP!” complains.

Lol how is stealth OP when everybody is spawning aoe. Also, people always complain about something that they don’t know. In my opinion thieves are not OP, but experienced ones could actually be OP lol

I still enjoy my thief and I’ve adapted to several sword nerfs fine, a lot of the qq is over one weapon set though – I’d like to see more Thieves moving away from using D/P but its not going to happen with the way things are balanced, people can play the way they want to play and I can imagine there are those Thieves that feed off the qq.

now people treat thieves like free kills

I play my thief like 90% of my time so I used to think it’s normal to be chased across the whole map by a bunch of enemies. Even lowbies go after me. Realised the above when I noticed I get chased a lot less when playing other classes.

OP, thanks for the post.

First of all: thank you! I’m one of those who have played thief since beta, and that almost exclusively. I’ve given other professions a try, but I guess they weren’t something for me. :p Still rocking thief, and I’m going to do so.

Jayden Ennok.3687:

now people treat thieves like free kills

I play my thief like 90% of my time so I used to think it’s normal to be chased across the whole map by a bunch of enemies. Even lowbies go after me. Realised the above when I noticed I get chased a lot less when playing other classes.

OP, thanks for the post.

Yeah. I feel like most people have built up such a hate for us that when they realize they can beat me they follow me until they kill me or I escape inside a building… Kind of funny though. Especially if I’m traited in SA (which pretty much every WvW thief is) and can just surf them with CnD chains.

I have tremendous respect for the Thief players out there as I find playing this class to be a complete act of frustration. Yes, it has some great tricks but I always feel like I’m really having to work to make some combo come through. Half the time I find myself bashing my head into my desk.

In comparison, I can play my Warrior, make a sandwich, and formulate the space-time continuum while still being able to 1vX other players. Thieves are not OP, they just are better players than myself.

I honestly don’t know what to say about this thread.

It’s almost as good as some of the warrior ones.

FinalPatriot.8034:

I have tremendous respect for the Thief players out there as I find playing this class to be a complete act of frustration. Yes, it has some great tricks but I always feel like I’m really having to work to make some combo come through. Half the time I find myself bashing my head into my desk.

In comparison, I can play my Warrior, make a sandwich, and formulate the space-time continuum while still being able to 1vX other players. Thieves are not OP, they just are better players than myself.

Dude this sums it up perfects you know i was actually have dinner while bunkers a point on my war

I think that the problem about thieves besides their limitations in some fields where other classes have a easy time, is the learning curve, kill inexperienced players for any class is not a big deal. I finally feel easy kill mesmers, but when you find players that know how react to you , you are basically one mistake away from death, a wrong move put you in a really tough situation and a really tough situation for thieves is pretty much death. However, I saw experinced thieves being the bane of the match and that is the point that i want to accomplish.

Don’t you know that because Thief is so OP that even after so many nerfs we’re still playing the profession?

Yea, agreed with OP. I played a bunker guardian for a good while and shot up my spot on leaderboards. However, I’ve since switched back to my thief and it’s been an uphill battle.

When playing guardian, I didn’t have to work too hard to pull anything off and the overall speed of play was much slower. However, one small mistake on my thief can easily end up in me going down in just a second or two.

I think thief is just an easy class to blame when you don’t understand the mechanics. I remember before I rolled a thief that I had a lot of trouble fighting them as well, but once you realize that you can still burn a thief down even when they’re stealthed and other similar strategies, the fights became a lot easier.

Dahkeus.8243:

…but once you realize that you can still burn a thief down even when they’re stealthed…

This just happened to me last night. I dropped SR before going down so I was downed while in stealth. Typically it works and they move on because they think that I ran away when I’m actually trying to get back up, but this Engi just kept on bombarding the area with grenades until I died. Experience against Thieves do count.

Agreed, power thieves have been hit really hard. Condi P/D thieves are still OP tho, that might be the new source of hate lol

johnpoc.8732:

Agreed, power thieves have been hit really hard. Condi P/D thieves are still OP tho, that might be the new source of hate lol

I’ll have to give condi a try eventually…I’ve heard it talked up a bit recently, but I’ve never seen condi thieves as particularly threatening. However, they do seem to be pretty few and far between.

Dahkeus.8243:

johnpoc.8732:

Agreed, power thieves have been hit really hard. Condi P/D thieves are still OP tho, that might be the new source of hate lol

I’ll have to give condi a try eventually…I’ve heard it talked up a bit recently, but I’ve never seen condi thieves as particularly threatening. However, they do seem to be pretty few and far between.

Condition thieves are getting popular now indeed. The problem that makes them “OP” is the food and crystals in combination with dire gear. The condition pressure and survivability of those builds are insane. You get just as much condition damage running full dire as you do with carrion gear, but the survivability of dire is so much higher. I think that’s the main problem that make people feel p/d is OP.

Hats off to the OP for breaking a long trend of thief hate!

With the krait rune buff, double condi duration sigils, and dire yeah condi thief is a pain but they are pretty bad against classes that use AI or transfer conditions. Even on my power necro putting 18 stacks of bleed on anyone is really painful.

Since the patch, I’ve been trying different classes to see how they feel. I used to play Necro back when they were infamous for being underpowered. After trying them again, they’re extremely strong. Might stacking and condi’s add up really quickly and I melt people easily. On my necro, thieves are free kills. I don’t enjoy playing my necro anymore. They used to be challenging to play.

I made a warrior, but got bored so quickly. I had to wipe drool from my mouth a couple times because of how brain dead that class is.

I made a thief after having deleted one I made ages ago when they were so OP that you could just heart seeker spam to glory, which was the entire reason I deleted him in the first place. After giving them a second try, I fell in love. I was extremely frustrated the whole time in PvP, and I still get really frustrated when 1v1’ing the sparring AI in the Mists as I die to them often (especially the engi and guardian), but after playing mine for a while (D/P + SB), I love it! So many combo’s and thinking on my toes and having to dodge effectively whenever possible.

Thief takes a brain to play now, and again I’m happy.

Finally some appreciation! Most of us (I should say Thieves lovers) search for good build after so many nerfs.

While ago when Dagger Storm or Heartseeker (I know there are more skills) were nerfed I was trying to look for a build to keep a good dps, not only for PvP but WvW and PvE as well.

Right now, I’m playing 95% of my time as a thief (and still that amount of time since the release) to try new builds and even skins in the wardrobe lol.

Anyways, thanks for the post
+1

I only wish our lockers expanded or armor sets became account bound rather then soul bound.

Time to time I bring in one of the other toons I have taken to 80 to try them out. Even with my warrior who is much more survivable , I soon get bored and come back to the thief to try a new build out or tweak and test skills. I got sets of armor in the locker for my thief with runes I do not want to lose.

People complain about the thief being “unskilled” just spamming skills. I do not think they play one. I took my warrior in to attend one of those events to get a new GM trait and all he had to do was stand up to the boss and swing with an occasional dodge mixed in. His health barely dropped. There were so many people I could not even see what he was doing but I did NOT have to, this truly the description of playing blindfolded. I was not even watching the screen action. All I had to focus on was the health bar and which skill was off cool down next. I could never do that on my thief.

Yes that is PvE and not WvW or PvP , but even when I bring my warrior into WvW and even if he rarely dies when compared to the thief, I find it a boring style of play and soon bring in the thief.

Jayden Ennok.3687:

now people treat thieves like free kills

You using a sword? If yes, you are a free kill in WvW.

The people that complain about thief are just those who are unwilling to learn how to improve and/or counter thief. Look at the ToL that just happened, most teams had a competent thief.

Death Scythe.9738:

I really want show my respect for players who still playing thieves on this games after so many nerfs. I almost delete my level 80 thief and then one of my friends told me that i should give him a chance. I did and I love it but is insane is like play the game in super hard mode out there, the actual meta is really tough for thieves , and after CritD damage got nerf is even worse, maybe i just started to play thief and I have poorly level of experience. When I started to play GW2 thieves was the premium class to play pvp, everybody complained about how OP thieves was, now people treat thieves like free kills. This is ridiculous. Respect for you guys , keep pushing

+1. After running necros, warriors and engineers for a year, I decided to roll up a thief. Thief = Hard Mode and I respect thief mains. Good news is playing my regular classes feels a lot easier by comparison.

Omnitek.3876:

Jayden Ennok.3687:

now people treat thieves like free kills

You using a sword? If yes, you are a free kill in WvW.

I play rifle.

Thanks for the respect playing a thief is becoming harder and harder as more people keep QQ and nerfing our class I’m sure many thieves can relate of how hard it is to play a thief now and days with spamming aoes and CC on our class. I really have started to play PvP now because of the fact in WvW it is ridiculous of the amount of spamming of aoes and declining DPs and how other class melt of conditional damage such as guardians that the thieves deal out now.

Death Scythe.9738:

I really want show my respect for players who still playing thieves on this games after so many nerfs.

<3 ty

:D
Yeah man, everyone gets nerfs, I mean they’re normal updates after all ya know.
:D I mean it’s usually we get a nerf or no change at all… so it’s all normal man, no need to praise us.

Benjamin.8237:

The people that complain about thief are just those who are unwilling to learn how to improve and/or counter thief. Look at the ToL that just happened, most teams had a competent thief.

Do you know if there’s a place we can see their builds? I feel like there’s some kind of secret build out there no one has tried yet that will do amazingly well.