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Posted by: ByeByeDaddyCool.3680

ByeByeDaddyCool.3680

Ive been playing D/P since its been a new thing. Im looking to try SD as a viable build to have fun with my young son who is also playing a thief. We aren’t looking to win any tournaments or be in the top 1% of wvw. Just looking for a really strong build that we can Roam WVW and do some PvE. Thanks I appreciate it. I checked the stickies but all of the SD builds are old and outdated.

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Posted by: Jiminy.8340

Jiminy.8340

I use this build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZEQNAsYVn0MBdmi9OBeOB8PhFYCTLBEAyAzdwSYL07LEHaDA-T1SBQBP4JFgCNMA4AKISlBXRpXCV/RDHCgJcCAwj+Aot/gZUCuZYAYIEBwMzMTjIjMAA-w

I most roam solo, but if I get in a small group, I’ll swap in Thrill of the Crime and Bountiful Theft for the group bonuses.

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Posted by: Deathrubber.3861

Deathrubber.3861

its hard to say this as i played s/d for 2 years but its vanilla now. the former meta (da/trick/dd) lost all its fighting potential with other classes buffed way above s/d. but if u do not own hot, s/d is a good choice with (da/trick/acro) if u want the best out of it.

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Posted by: rennlc.7346

rennlc.7346

A place to start for S/D: http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Daredevil_-_Marauder_S/D

Frankly, I think you guys would probably be more effective and have more fun with one of you playing D/P and the other playing staff. D/P is so good with the interrupts, blinds, and ways for getting both of you into stealth. Staff just brings much more damage than S/D.

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Posted by: Fat Disgrace.4275

Fat Disgrace.4275

A place to start for S/D: http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Daredevil_-_Marauder_S/D

Frankly, I think you guys would probably be more effective and have more fun with one of you playing D/P and the other playing staff. D/P is so good with the interrupts, blinds, and ways for getting both of you into stealth. Staff just brings much more damage than S/D.

Actually I think a lot of people are fed up with d/p but are forced to play it because it is so good of a weapon set.

Fat Disgrace (banned) Man Flu Survivor – war/The Cabbage -Thief (gunners hold / [TaG])

gw1 – healing signet/frenzy/charge

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Posted by: BlaqueFyre.5678

BlaqueFyre.5678

I find SD to do well in this Meta especially in team fights to cull Boon spam on focus targets

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Posted by: yiksing.9432

yiksing.9432

I use acrobatic, trickery and daredevil tree at the moment in wvw with cnd for stealth only. Pretty fun when fighting against any other profession even other d/p thief. But there’s a small chance you get dropped by a zerker thief or mesmer in a second if u aren’t aware they are around.

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Posted by: Taobella.6597

Taobella.6597

if you are looking for a fun play style i been playing around with idea for s/d build for awile now.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAsYVn0MBFmitNBOmCkmiFZCbeDOCLha7ppQAwbLcoSDA-TFCEQBYS9HCcKAEkSQ7t/AAOCAA8BAoFlf9RfApAYVkF-w

its a hybird build way you run it is you pop the daggers rotate your attack in between flaking strike well poping intrup then comboing out second chain of 3 to control boon war.

interm of gear for it you can really run whatever you want i personally like cel for it but a mix of carrion and marauder could skyrocket your power for loss of basically everything XD.

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Posted by: DeceiverX.8361

DeceiverX.8361

Either play S/D with a very aggressive, offense-based build running something with CS using S/D to compensate for a lack of defenses, or run it in a tempo durability build with something like Soldier’s gear in SA/Tr/DD (a friend of mine did this with fair success while learning thief). I’d suggest my signets D/D + S/D build, but frankly without playing the thief for a few years it will under-perform and is not as mathematically sound as other possibilities.

Squishier DPS/LS Burst with Boon Hate:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAsYVn0MBFmilOBGOB8Phlxia+2/9jfbDLrO0bACgDA-TlCBQBA4BAUJ1A0n+Ass/oURhq+wgjAQWUWdGlgQ4EAshDBApAEUnF-w

S/D + Staff Brawler:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAsYWn8lCFmilOBePBkmiFkiyLHuhegrBCgFYO+r/+H-TlCEABAcEAcTTgTK/cXPACnAAuUCqo6PV8AA2f/hHOEAECw8CA-w

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Posted by: Eval.2371

Eval.2371

Soldier’s gear in SA/Tr/DD (a friend of mine did this with fair success while learning thief).
S/D + Staff Brawler:

Friend here.

Build was actually this for the record.

However it was mainly an experiment to see if I could make front line thief viable while learning the class.

If your looking to run sword /x + staff, id suggest something along the lines of this

Sword in general is a very defensive weapon and it does not do much damage, its better for extended fights if you dont waste your initiative. That said dagger OH works really well atm with the amt of boons going around.

[Cya] TC Roamer/Scout
I Play WvW to have fun. I don’t find it fun anymore. Therefore I don’t play.

(edited by Eval.2371)

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Posted by: Vornollo.5182

Vornollo.5182

I’ve been playing around with 2 variants on S/D, traitwise mostly.
First and favourite being with DA/TR/DD:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAsYVl0MhKnYpTwwJw/ELwE28HsE2C9SDnh2gWCIAsbA-TVDEQBA4IBki9HewhEoDaYSwJAoN6D8n6OG4AIQgHQATU6tFlgOUZwiUJIAACwNbz28mBO6RP6RP6R7m38oH9m3sUAVpzC-w

And the other being Acro/TR/DD:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAsYVn8lCFmilOBGOB8PhFqiqrnCggcO77+x3LE+gSA-TVDEQB+TdnOohxAHABAckASx+DJ4EAwEleOUZwWUCSgHQwiUJ4BHSg2oPIAACwNbz28mBO6RP6RP6R7m38oH9m3sUAVpzC-w

The DA/TR/DD one also works perfectly fine when swapping the traits Weakening Strikes and Brawler’s Tenacity while picking up Channeled Vigor (and Bandit’s Defense).
I like using the Might on Dodge food as it sort of replaces a trait that we used to have in Acrobatics (Power of Inertia), the food combined with the Sigil and Runes of Strength gives S/D quite a bit of punch that I find lacking in many other S/D builds I’ve tried.
Both builds also work if you’d change the runes on the Armor to something like Hoelbrak (slightly more sustainable), Privateer, Pack, Vampirism or even Eagle and Rage (Rage technically being a cheap variant of Strength Runes, with a slight loss of DPS).

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Posted by: Fat Disgrace.4275

Fat Disgrace.4275

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Posted by: that baby stealing dingo.7216

that baby stealing dingo.7216

Ive been playing D/P since its been a new thing. Im looking to try SD as a viable build to have fun with my young son who is also playing a thief. We aren’t looking to win any tournaments or be in the top 1% of wvw. Just looking for a really strong build that we can Roam WVW and do some PvE. Thanks I appreciate it. I checked the stickies but all of the SD builds are old and outdated.

Best luck I’ve had in all game modes (WvW or otherwise) is pure glass as follows:

Traits/Specializations:
CS
AC
TR

Utility skills:
All tricks (withdraw, scorpion wire, RFI, Haste)

Gear: All Berzerker
Runes: Eagle
Sigils: Force, Bloodlust

Food:
Whatever you want to spend.

Detailed build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAsYVl0MhanYvTw4JQ/EH7EVfHWwcwPFbxVsDgarNB-TJRBwAkLDA4BAMb/hFnAAA

The DPS is real.

If you’ve purchased HoT and ground out the Daredevil spec, feel free to swap that out for another trait line. I find the HoT specs to be kinda cheesy and “mandatory” so I stick with vanilla.

I have a sword, a dagger, and an estimated life span of 2.47 seconds.