Guild Wars 2

Seriously, even with 3k tougness which is mediocre, a thief can crit my rev with the stealing ability (sometimes twice due to trait) for about 4k-5k. FOR ONE kitten HIT. Plus the extremly overpowered slowing. Viper thief got it once up to 8 seconds on me. And what if your cleanse got wasted for one of this? well, there will be another Essence Sap.

That thief is the main class for 1on1 is ok. Well if people need to use it, ok. But why give them the strongest skill per STEALING? Which isnt even a regular skill from Revenant, its a downed auto attack, gosh. This needs some serious rework.

Aury.1367:

Seriously, even with 3k tougness which is mediocre, a thief can crit my rev with the stealing ability (sometimes twice due to trait) for about 4k-5k. FOR ONE kitten HIT. Plus the extremly overpowered slowing. Viper thief got it once up to 8 seconds on me. And what if your cleanse got wasted for one of this? well, there will be another Essence Sap.

That thief is the main class for 1on1 is ok. Well if people need to use it, ok. But why give them the strongest skill per STEALING? Which isnt even a regular skill from Revenant, its a downed auto attack, gosh. This needs some serious rework.

I can get hit for a lot more than 4 or 5 k from one hit off an arc divider or eviscerate or shatter or big ol bomb . What If I used my cleanse and get hit by a skull grinder?

I do not see the problem. It can be dodged and blocked. It has a 1/2 second activation.

Seriously, even with 3k toughness which is mediocre (first of all what lol), a rev can crit my thief with the sword 2 ability (3 times due to targeting) for about 4-5k. FOR ONE kittening USE. Plus the extremely overpowered chilling. Viper rev got it once up to 8 seconds on me. And what if your cleanse got wasted for one of this? well, there will be another Precision Strike.

3k toughness is mediocre? thats like some hack level toughness. considering 3000 armor is almost equivalent to having protection constantly?

Rev can reveal us and can keep up with our mobilty to some extent, I often hit around 4k but I am not built for high dps. Rev hurts us way more then this skill does.

I think he means 3k Armor, not toughness.
My Marauder/Zerker (+2 random rings which have some toughness in it) Rev brings it to 1200 toughness and 2440 armor.

emkelly stop trolling, otherwise I’m summoning zero!

zero does not scare me, and I was not trolling. 3k armor is still not mediocre. It’s pretty much as high as you can get it without completely sacrificing all damage output.

It doesn’t make any sense whatsoever anyway – “I’m not that tanky, still a skill hits me hard” – well ok then, what was your point again?

ETA. But maybe that was the opposite of what he wanted to say. Anyway – since I’m apparently a fan of zerker’s (tankiest charakter: Soldier’s warrior with I bet zerker trinkets) I’m off to the skills editor to see what not mediocre is.
Full Mistrel plus some nice trait granting 40 toughness per whatever gives me 3525 without food so far. Might be a bit harder to get these stats in PvP though. So I’d say: 3000 Armor is mediocre.