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Posted by: Pixels.6532

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Currently:
1. +25 Precision
2. +35 Condition Damage
3. +50 Precision
4. +65 Condition Damage
5. +100 Precision
6. When striking a foe from behind or the side, gain +10% damage

Too much of a hybrid rune, IMO. I think it would work better as follows:

Proposed:
1. +25 Precision
2. +35 Power
3. +50 Precision
4. Gain Fury (5s) when entering stealth (10s cooldown)
5. +100 Precision
6. When striking a foe from behind or the side, gain +10% damage

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Posted by: Faxi.3059

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lal looks.. too OP

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Posted by: Starsurfer.7209

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I like the substitution of power for condition damage, as there’s really no point in running thief runes in their current hybrid form. The addition of fury might bring some balance issues however… It might be more acceptable if you raised the cooldown on the Fury proc to 30 seconds. That would be the same cooldown as the CS trait “Furious Retaliation” and would help prevent fury stacking abuse.

Otherwise, a decent idea.

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Posted by: Cynz.9437

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i have better idea for 6th bonus: when struck, daze foe for 2.5 sec… because nightmare runes are balanced apprently

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Posted by: Jayden Ennok.3687

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I like the substitution of power for condition damage, as there’s really no point in running thief runes in their current hybrid form. The addition of fury might bring some balance issues however… It might be more acceptable if you raised the cooldown on the Fury proc to 30 seconds. That would be the same cooldown as the CS trait “Furious Retaliation” and would help prevent fury stacking abuse.

Otherwise, a decent idea.

1. FR gives 10s of fury on 30s cd so, 5s of fury with same cooldown would be a bit too long for the runes. Personally I think this would work best with shorter fury and shorter cd, 2s/7cd. Too short to stack fury and the duration would need an aggressive playstyle, the thief would have to chose between making use of the fury proc or sitting at stealth gaining whatever stealth related benefits he traited for.

2. Anet gives kitten about making some upgrades a lot stronger than traits, for example https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Sigil-of-Incapacitation-vs-Ankle-Shots/first#post4458857

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Posted by: hihey.1075

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i have better idea for 6th bonus: when struck, daze foe for 2.5 sec… because nightmare runes are balanced apprently

If you want an “automatic” stun, get Runes of Air and cast Basilisk Venom. The moment you get hit, the Lighting Strike will hit your enemy and stun him because of Basilisk.

It’s the new “cheese” rune that some people use in 1v1s to guarantee BV to hit.

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Posted by: SuinegTsol.1729

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it’s the rune of the THIEF, so how about:

1. +25 Precision
2. +35 Power
3. stolen skills deal +5% more damage, steal recharges 5% faster
4. + 75 Precision
5. strikeing a foe from stealth will drain one boon from him to you
6. move 25% faster ,When striking a foe from behind or the side, gain +5% damage

this would at least fit the generall thief playstyle: mobility, stealing and focused on single targets….

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Posted by: jcavlopes.1736

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it’s the rune of the THIEF, so how about:

1. +25 Precision
2. +35 Power
3. stolen skills deal +5% more damage, steal recharges 5% faster
4. + 75 Precision
5. strikeing a foe from stealth will drain one boon from him to you
6. move 25% faster ,When striking a foe from behind or the side, gain +5% damage

this would at least fit the generall thief playstyle: mobility, stealing and focused on single targets….

I would like to see this rune with a steal bonus. But i would just really be glad if they changed the condition dmg for power. And that’s not asking much. At least it would give the original 6th bonus coherence with thief power backstab builds. As it is this rune is a total insanity and i see no use for it.

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Posted by: Justine.6351

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it’s the rune of the THIEF, so how about:

1. +25 Precision
2. +35 Power
3. stolen skills deal +5% more damage, steal recharges 5% faster
4. + 75 Precision
5. strikeing a foe from stealth will drain one boon from him to you
6. move 25% faster ,When striking a foe from behind or the side, gain +5% damage

this would at least fit the generall thief playstyle: mobility, stealing and focused on single targets….

Yeah and rune of the ranger should be
1. 25 precision
2. -5seconds on pet swap.
3. 50 precision
4. +10% dmg with projectiles when standing on higher ground then opponent.
5. 100 precision
6. +25% speed. Opening strike causes 6seconds of reveal.

I think this set of runes would fit the hunter/archer play style. Long range hunter, tracker, beastmaster.

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Posted by: Lamuness.3570

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Question about this, if they say this Rune of the Thief is supposed to give precision and condi damage, does that mean that is what this class is meant to be like? Or am I reading too much into it.

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Posted by: baylock.1703

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Currently:
1. +25 Precision
2. +35 Condition Damage
3. +50 Precision
4. +65 Condition Damage
5. +100 Precision
6. When striking a foe from behind or the side, gain +10% damage

Too much of a hybrid rune, IMO. I think it would work better as follows:

Proposed:
1. +25 Precision
2. +35 Power
3. +50 Precision
4. Gain Fury (5s) when entering stealth (10s cooldown)
5. +100 Precision
6. When striking a foe from behind or the side, gain +10% damage

Dod are ya ranger beacose ranger stealth is on 10 second cooldown you would make power ranger even more powerful

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Posted by: Sagat.3285

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Question about this, if they say this Rune of the Thief is supposed to give precision and condi damage, does that mean that is what this class is meant to be like? Or am I reading too much into it.

Well some thieves played the gimmick 2 6 0 0 6……Trickery+Critical Strikes is precision+condition damage maybe they foreseen it lol so kind of unlikely to change lol.

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Posted by: Pixels.6532

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Dod are ya ranger beacose ranger stealth is on 10 second cooldown you would make power ranger even more powerful

You sure about that? Rune of the Ranger gives a flat 7% damage bonus with a pet, Rangers can basically take 100% of that bonus. 10% damage from the side or behind? The “strength” of the new pew pew ranger is to maintain distance and position yourself in hard to reach spots, you don’t worry about which direction your target is facing. So I don’t see them making very efficient use of that 10% bonus damage.

Additionally, the ranger would have to make perfect use of the fury up-time on the Thief rune.

I think rangers would still be better off using RoR, but I agree with some posters above about giving the Fury ICD a longer duration. 5s every 15s v 10s but make it a shared fury with nearby allies.

Another version of this rune could be:

1. +25 Precision
2. +35 Ferocity
3. +50 Precision
4. 25% Chance on critical hit, grant fury (5s) to you and your nearby team-mates (15s) cool down
5. +100 Precision
6. Gain 10% damage bonus when striking a foe from the side or behind.

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Posted by: DeceiverX.8361

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If it was just power and precision in its current state, it would be usable to an extent – kind of like budget scholars.

I’d only use them over scholars if it was Power + Ferocity + 10% damage on behind/side. Thing is, so would then a lot of other people. Making it exclusive to stealth doesn’t really work, either, since rangers/mesmers/norns also have that access.

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Posted by: Kuunan.6473

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Power + precision with that 10% damage sounds super OP. Would work for just about any class, ranger, power necro, etc. Everyone would be running them instead of Pack or Scholar Runes.

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Posted by: PachTrick.3601

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1. +25 Precision
2. +35 Power
3. +50 Precision
4. +65 Power
5. +100 Precision
6. Stealing grants you +10% damage for 5 seconds; Stealing recharges 10% faster

or

1. +25 Precision
2. Stealing recharges 5% faster
3. +50 Precision
4. Stealing recharges 10% faster
5. +100 Precision
6. 50% when being hit to steal a boon from an opponent(20s CD); +100 Power

Or

1. +25 Precision
2. +35 Power
3. +50 Precision
4. +65 Power
5. +100 Precision
6. +10% damage when revealed ; Stealing recharges 10% faster

Or

1. +25 Precision
2. +35 Power
3. +50 Precision
4. +65 Power
5. +100 Precision
6. Walk 25% faster when stealing is in cooldown ; Stealing recharges 15% faster

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Posted by: Justine.6351

Justine.6351

Instead of wanting MOAR +% dmg why not ask for something more utility like? Steal already has 2 sources of CDR so I seriously doubt that will happen. And people don’t like surprise stealths so a free stealth won’t happen, and there is Already a rune set for that.

I wouldn’t mind seeing it come with a 6 piece bonus of:
(6) 50% chance when hit with a projectile to create a smoke screen for 4 seconds. 90 second cool down.

Anyone could use them.

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Posted by: Sagat.3285

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So many wants to see it as power runes lol it will stay the same maybe it will be the rune future celestial thieves use if the class is kept alive. Surprised no one made condition suggestions.

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