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Posted by: Lukin.4061

Lukin.4061

Hello, is the utility skill “Shadow refuge” bugged or working as it should, since it says that it gives 3 sec stealth, while in reality it is around 15 sec…

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Posted by: Takerukun.8924

Takerukun.8924

Hey Lukin, this is working as it should. It stealths for 3 seconds per pulse, so the longer you stay in the AoE, the longer the stealth lasts. However, if you leave the AoE field with more than 4-5 seconds of stealth left, it breaks stealth and gives the revealed debuff.

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Posted by: Lukin.4061

Lukin.4061

I see, thanks for the information.

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Posted by: BrunoBRS.5178

BrunoBRS.5178

Hey Lukin, this is working as it should. It stealths for 3 seconds per pulse, so the longer you stay in the AoE, the longer the stealth lasts. However, if you leave the AoE field with more than 4-5 seconds of stealth left, it breaks stealth and gives the revealed debuff.

and why the hell does it do that? i was about to start a thread asking if it was a bug, because in the end, using shadow refuge for the stealth is useless, because it breaks you out of stealth as soon as you move out. so you either throw it in front of the enemy, or stand perfectly still and hope the enemy gets close enough.

if it says “3 seconds left”, then it should last 3 seconds.

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Posted by: Hellkaiser.6025

Hellkaiser.6025

but if you stay inside it til it ends it will stack and stay stacked however I think they’ve been messing with this aspect to alter it, not sure 100%

Shame they don’t spend as much time fixing the bugs with our kit, the lackluster skills and ofc ya know. The big warrior elephants standing the room people are avoiding talking about lol

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Posted by: Ravrohan.8231

Ravrohan.8231

^ Maybe a couple more weapon combo’s too.

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Posted by: Imperator totius Sylvari.9164

Imperator totius Sylvari.9164

It is called shadow refuge for a reason :P

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Posted by: Ohoni.6057

Ohoni.6057

Yeah it’s really more of a “Hide” than a “Stealth”. The best possible use of all that stealth is to heal people. If someone’s downed, drop a Refuge on them, get to Rezzing them, and you should have plenty of time to do so while being fully stealthed.

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Posted by: mystaquetz.1746

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It is called shadow refuge for a reason :P

Well the big stupid house icon doesn’t help much to make it a “refuge” since it’s a blaring AE THIS AREA NOW sign.

When you have to use it as a trick diversion to avoid multiple enemies, by coupling it with shadowstep….. that’s not exactly a refuge.

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Posted by: gamefreak.5673

gamefreak.5673

other people on the other team dont see the house icon, or least I never have. This is also fantastic for getting commune points and rich veins in pve setups without having to fight champ mobs etc.

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Posted by: Ohoni.6057

Ohoni.6057

other people on the other team dont see the house icon, or least I never have. This is also fantastic for getting commune points and rich veins in pve setups without having to fight champ mobs etc.

Yeah, if you’re on the opposing team you won’t see any graphics for Shadow Refuge at all, you’ll just see a bunch of people vanishing. Now, a smart player who’s paying close attention could probably figure out what happened in a mass PvP situation, but it’s better than nothing.

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Posted by: BrunoBRS.5178

BrunoBRS.5178

Yeah it’s really more of a “Hide” than a “Stealth”. The best possible use of all that stealth is to heal people. If someone’s downed, drop a Refuge on them, get to Rezzing them, and you should have plenty of time to do so while being fully stealthed.

that’s what i usually use it for, but when you want to get out of it and backstab, it wears out instantly, so what i do is switch to my pistol and fire, at least i didn’t waste a stealth attack.

problem comes when you’re trying to group-stealth for a dungeon mechanic, like on the seraph path on caudecus manor. if you get your group stealthed for 9 seconds, you could make the “place barrels on buttons” part of it easily. but more than once has shadow refuge backfired and unstealthed everyone at random times, causing massive agro on us. it’s worse that it actually changes depending on the game’s mood, apparently.

i just want reliable tooltips.

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Posted by: BrunoBRS.5178

BrunoBRS.5178

other people on the other team dont see the house icon, or least I never have. This is also fantastic for getting commune points and rich veins in pve setups without having to fight champ mobs etc.

Yeah, if you’re on the opposing team you won’t see any graphics for Shadow Refuge at all, you’ll just see a bunch of people vanishing. Now, a smart player who’s paying close attention could probably figure out what happened in a mass PvP situation, but it’s better than nothing.

at least on WvW, you see a big red AoE and the house/shack thing when an enemy pops one.

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Posted by: Ohoni.6057

Ohoni.6057

that’s what i usually use it for, but when you want to get out of it and backstab, it wears out instantly, so what i do is switch to my pistol and fire, at least i didn’t waste a stealth attack.

I never really try for a stealth attack with it anyways. If I’m not healing from within the refuge, then what I typically do is either switch to the bow and start firing, or use Dancing Daggers. Since SR is a Dark Field, it procs Lifesteal, which can help with the healing.

at least on WvW, you see a big red AoE and the house/shack thing when an enemy pops one.

I’ve never seen that, but if true, that’s stupid and should be fixed. Put it in the suggestion box.

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Posted by: BrunoBRS.5178

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^ i heal more with my traits + signet of malice + death blossom than i would with lifesteal dancing dagger, so i’m better off using the refuge for extra damage than for a heal (i’m usually full on health too, thanks to how the signet works with caltrops and death blossom)

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