Shadow's Embrace vs Shadow Protector

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Posted by: azmodey.4576

azmodey.4576

Hello all,

I am trying to figure out what’s work best in WvW especially roaming but I use my build in zerg too also.

I can’t choose alone

My spec is a classic 0/6/6/2/0 D/P, using Hide in Shadows in heal and Infiltrator’s Signet to break stun about the most pertinent skills I use and Shadow’s Rejuvenation for the traits.

I have tried the two traits, I cannot use the two because I lack initiative if I am not using Infusion of Shadow :

Shadow’s Embrace :
This trait great, bye bye blind, bleed, freeze… but my regen with only Shadow’s Rejuvenation seems not enough except when I fight against full condition damage oponents.

Shadow Protector :
It seems it works better in addition to Shadow’s Rejuvenation a nice 2k heal even countering the condition damage I am suffering but I feel lacking some cc counter.

Each time I try one it seems I lack something but I cannot what is lacking most.

Do you have a opinion ? a solution to get more initiative and avoid using Infusion of Shadow ? I have tried D/D it seems slower but less initiative costing.
Any idea ?

thanks, Azmodey

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Posted by: oEnvy.3064

oEnvy.3064

Shadow’s Embrace is far better, just trust me on that. The solution for your initiative problem would be to pick up trickery. 20606 is the most efficient trait spread a thief can run in WvW basically no matter what build or stat spread they’re using. Learn how to use sleight of hand and mug on a ridiculously low cd and you will easily make up for the damage lost from crit strikes. Honestly with 20606 dp you can literally just spam shadow shot and autos with air fire and easily outdps and outpressure the boring backstabs you get from x6/6/x/x.

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Posted by: azmodey.4576

azmodey.4576

Shadow’s Embrace is far better, just trust me on that. The solution for your initiative problem would be to pick up trickery. 20606 is the most efficient trait spread a thief can run in WvW basically no matter what build or stat spread they’re using. Learn how to use sleight of hand and mug on a ridiculously low cd and you will easily make up for the damage lost from crit strikes. Honestly with 20606 dp you can literally just spam shadow shot and autos with air fire and easily outdps and outpressure the boring backstabs you get from x6/6/x/x.

Nice alternative I never tried ! Let’s go ! thanks

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Posted by: Doomdesire.9365

Doomdesire.9365

Shadows embrace. Protector may have been viable in the old days but the meta has been heavy condition tank for the past 2 years. You won’t last a minute roaming without adequate condi clear.

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Posted by: Doggie.3184

Doggie.3184

Last I checked protector was still bugged even after the buff they gave it long time ago~ it’s regen doesn’t stack nor work with other regen sources. Doubt they fixed it.

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Posted by: Dajman.2740

Dajman.2740

When you say air fire I assume you are talking sigils right? Do these two not share a CD on their trigger times? I have been running force and air mostly because I assumed they would cancel each other out.

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Posted by: Doggie.3184

Doggie.3184

When you say air fire I assume you are talking sigils right? Do these two not share a CD on their trigger times? I have been running force and air mostly because I assumed they would cancel each other out.

They have their own CD now. It’s fun with PP when you proc both at same time with unload.

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Posted by: azmodey.4576

azmodey.4576

thanks a lot.

2/0/6/0/6 is better for me. Don’t know why at first, but now I’ll never go fight without sleight of hand !!!