Guild Wars 2

So first let me state I play a thief, far from the best but certainly ahead of the curve. I know the tricks of the class and what it can do.

So my question is, has anyone noticed thieves shadowstep stomping a teleported away enemy with almost godly reflexes.

I have had this happen from two different thieves on two different occasions in sPvP. I Always time my shadow escape for the very last possible second, and on these occasions these people shadow stepped to me so fast to not interrupt their stomp i couldnt believe it.

Now perhaps they are god tier players but it just felt fishy. Anyone else notice anything like this?

They can just be ready for you and hit that steal to get onto you

its not steals tho its shadowstep

We expect you to tele away at the last second, but we have the advantage of seeing the channeling bar on our stomp, making it easy to just steal at the real last second and reclose the gap. In reality, they might not even by reacting to your teleport, but just always stealing right at the end of the channel.

Edit: if it’s shadowstep, then yes they have to react quickly, but it’s still quite possible. How do you know it isn’t steal?

hmm perhaps it is steal then, guess i still dont know ALL the tricks of the class =P

Roarkin.1068:

hmm perhaps it is steal then, guess i still dont know ALL the tricks of the class =P

No it can be shadowstep. (easiest way to check wether they used steal/infiltrator’s signet or shadowstep is for the icon for teleporting back to the former location)
I didn’t perform that particular stomp in a long time (mostly because I’ve permanently been running with 20s Steal and Infiltrator’s Signet for the last year), but when levelling my second Thief in WvW (duo or trio “roaming”) I first performed the exact stomp you mentioned… felt so god-like afterwards, it’s only quick reactions, waiting for you to port and maybe also luck with having the mouse at the right place

Happened rarely but always felt like a boss after that

you generally have to be within 360 range, sb5, shadowstep, steal, inf sign all give us tricks, learn them, dont abuse, dont qq.

its one of the few cool things we have left.

Pretty sure that shadowstep works with the newly added “Snap ground targeted skills to enemy target” option in the combat settings, making it as easy as a double tap, but that is an untested assumption and the option is brand new.

If it isn’t steal or infiltrator signet, it’s a safe assumption to say that it shadow step with the new snap ground target, the new option doesn’t really discriminate what aoe will snap. I had to turn off because it was causing SB 5 to snap my target.

That or you accidentally teleported to their return spot for shadow step, or they got really luck and guessed your location.

Roarkin.1068:

So first let me state I play a thief, far from the best but certainly ahead of the curve. I know the tricks of the class and what it can do.

So my question is, has anyone noticed thieves shadowstep stomping a teleported away enemy with almost godly reflexes.

I have had this happen from two different thieves on two different occasions in sPvP. I Always time my shadow escape for the very last possible second, and on these occasions these people shadow stepped to me so fast to not interrupt their stomp i couldnt believe it.

Now perhaps they are god tier players but it just felt fishy. Anyone else notice anything like this?

How to do this easily:

1) Down a Thief
2) Stealth yourself
3) Wait 2 seconds before beginning stomp
4) Prepare to shadowstep to where the Thief teleports. You will likely have almost 2 seconds to do so before your stomp finishes.

If there is a curve, we are too biased to correctly determine where we are on it. There is no God tier. There are only players who are much more experienced and practiced than yourself.

It’s steal.

If your steal is off cooldown and you’re stomping a thief, you can guarantee the stomp by stealing to their location the instant they teleport.

Its a trick you pick up in pvp. Steal also accounts for teleports in any directon, as steal always outranges the downstate port and follows the same pathing laws.

plus, as was said, we know exactly when our stomp finishes. if you port at the last second and we steal at the last instant, you’re guaranteed getting staked.

I highly doubt it’s shadow step. Eles and mesmers do sometimes anticipate both your port, and guess where you’ll go, and use lightning flash or blink to finish, but it’s risky in that the thief might move in another direction or not at all. For thieves shadow step is a much stronger utility and has a longer cool down. I certainly wouldn’t waste it on a guess.

rennlc.7346:

Roarkin.1068:

So first let me state I play a thief, far from the best but certainly ahead of the curve. I know the tricks of the class and what it can do.

So my question is, has anyone noticed thieves shadowstep stomping a teleported away enemy with almost godly reflexes.

I have had this happen from two different thieves on two different occasions in sPvP. I Always time my shadow escape for the very last possible second, and on these occasions these people shadow stepped to me so fast to not interrupt their stomp i couldnt believe it.

Now perhaps they are god tier players but it just felt fishy. Anyone else notice anything like this?

How to do this easily:

1) Down a Thief
2) Stealth yourself
3) Wait 2 seconds before beginning stomp
4) Prepare to shadowstep to where the Thief teleports. You will likely have almost 2 seconds to do so before your stomp finishes.

If there is a curve, we are too biased to correctly determine where we are on it. There is no God tier. There are only players who are much more experienced and practiced than yourself.

^ Also a great way to land stomps vs mesmers.

Don’t care if it’s been said over an over, we get steal ready, if not that than Infiltrator’s Signet if it’s on the bar, Shadow Step is a last resort since it is considerably more difficult to pull off since if you are stomping a thief like me who has a general idea of where your bar is, I’ll port at the utmost last second making it so that you’d need unholy reflexes to turn your camera and cast shadowstep near me. If I am the stomper and have to use shadowstep I precast it and get it ready in a general area- a lot, far too many thieves shadow escape way too early making it extremely easy. But then there are some who like me will wait til nearly the last second in which I will quickly move my mouse and click to attempt to finish the stomp. Last millisecond shadowstep stomps for me like that are 50% successful since the amount of time you have to kitten where you opponent is, move the mouse and click (I use ground targeting) before your character reaches the ground during the stomp animation is extremely small. However as Impact said, the situation needs to call for it since Shadow step is a valuable utility that’d I’d rather not waste on a stomp

Also worth noting that there is a very small window of time if you are the downed one to where even if they have an insta-blink ready, you can still make them miss the stomp. At the uttermost last second right before the stomp, even if they are ready, you can shadow escape to watch them port to you but they’d already be in the ground at the end of the animation, happened quite a few times for me on both sides of the spectrum

fought a really good d/p thief recently, his reflex for shadow step was beyond amazing. It was so fast that at one point I thought he was traited for hard to catch when my basalisk venom would hit him, but he had a shadow return…