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Posted by: zerotenshigg.3756

zerotenshigg.3756

What do you guys do to kill them in wvw?

I tried to use Scorp-wire to pull her away from the mobs then tried to keep evading her attacks, but…
I can’t stop the CnD + steal combo. Any suggestions?
To my current plan or a new one entirely different.

And I usually run Scorp-wire, SoS, and prayer to whatever to remove 3 conditions.
And I usually pair it up with withdraw.
My build is shadow arts with having procs of sigils activate.

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Posted by: Adaneshade.2409

Adaneshade.2409

Sword/dagger and go at em hard….. remember they have no burst.

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Posted by: stof.9341

stof.9341

Try playing the same game than them : spam C&D with Shadows’ Embrace to remove their bleeds always.

Or maybe the sigil of generosity could be a nice fun way to remove bleeds on you.

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Posted by: Daecollo.9578

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Don’t fight them, run, if they chase you, lure them into an area your familiar with and out of the area they arn’t familiar with, P/D thieves will win always usually if you fight them on there turf with there rules.

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Posted by: PopeUrban.2578

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As a P/D WvW thief the best counter people have used is simpy learning the C&D animation and timing dodges, and saving disables for when they can’t dodge.

This runs out my initiative pretty fast and forces me to withdraw, allowing the opponent plety of time to recharge cooldowns and ends up with me either choosing to get out of the fight, or committing to the encounter at substantial risk of death due to not having enough initiative to properly escape.

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Posted by: Loading.4503

Loading.4503

As a P/D WvW thief the best counter people have used is simpy learning the C&D animation and timing dodges, and saving disables for when they can’t dodge.

This runs out my initiative pretty fast and forces me to withdraw, allowing the opponent plety of time to recharge cooldowns and ends up with me either choosing to get out of the fight, or committing to the encounter at substantial risk of death due to not having enough initiative to properly escape.

Pretty much this, countering CnD is the best way to fight a p/d, when you make them use up their initiative, it’s the bet time to go aggressive making them use their utilities

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Posted by: Doomdesire.9365

Doomdesire.9365

Use signet of shadows activate and blind their CnDs

Or use a shortbow because the #3 skill comes in extremely handy when dodging CnD

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Posted by: Dee Jay.2460

Dee Jay.2460

Well dodging will help but it won’t win the fight.

Pistol/Dagger is unbeatable in WvW if played right. It’s far more powerful than any one of those cheesy Backstab builds. It’s just rarely played.

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Posted by: Stiv.1820

Stiv.1820

I played P/D since I hit 80 but recently switched to S/D + D/D. I feel like I hard counter P/D. There is nothing they can do. You do need remove conditions on stealth and a way to stealth often though. Dodging C&D is key as well if you don’t want it to drag on.

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Posted by: ZLE.8293

ZLE.8293

I played P/D since I hit 80 but recently switched to S/D + D/D. I feel like I hard counter P/D. There is nothing they can do. You do need remove conditions on stealth and a way to stealth often though. Dodging C&D is key as well if you don’t want it to drag on.

I agree.I experienced this the hard way.The P/D killer is Inf Strike.Even if they are slowed you just can’t escape,and because of it they lead the fight.S/D guy chooses when to C&D and vanish only to Daze you right after that.It’s a nightmare against good Thief.@Stiv just out of curiosity would you mind post your build please?

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Posted by: swinsk.6410

swinsk.6410

I played P/D since I hit 80 but recently switched to S/D + D/D. I feel like I hard counter P/D. There is nothing they can do. You do need remove conditions on stealth and a way to stealth often though. Dodging C&D is key as well if you don’t want it to drag on.

Infiltrator Strike (#2 from sword) removes 1 condition…

lulz

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Posted by: Stiv.1820

Stiv.1820

I played P/D since I hit 80 but recently switched to S/D + D/D. I feel like I hard counter P/D. There is nothing they can do. You do need remove conditions on stealth and a way to stealth often though. Dodging C&D is key as well if you don’t want it to drag on.

Infiltrator Strike (#2 from sword) removes 1 condition…

lulz

True having both could be overkill vs P/D. Still nice to be pretty much immune to all conditions though and not having to rely on S#2 or Heal to remove them.

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Posted by: Albane.8367

Albane.8367

No such thing as condition removal overkill. Especially against a decent P/D thief with almost unlimited Caltrop snares.

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Posted by: vrilek.4038

vrilek.4038

Well dodging will help but it won’t win the fight.

Pistol/Dagger is unbeatable in WvW if played right. It’s far more powerful than any one of those cheesy Backstab builds. It’s just rarely played.

Indeed. Ppl can fight vs nab P/D thief or pro P/D thief. Dodging CnD is pointless vs good ones beacuse they will fake it by dodging towards enemy losing no initiative.

I played P/D since I hit 80 but recently switched to S/D + D/D. I feel like I hard counter P/D. There is nothing they can do. You do need remove conditions on stealth and a way to stealth often though. Dodging C&D is key as well if you don’t want it to drag on.

Infiltrator Strike (#2 from sword) removes 1 condition…

lulz

True having both could be overkill vs P/D. Still nice to be pretty much immune to all conditions though and not having to rely on S#2 or Heal to remove them.

Its true, removing many conditions will prolong the fight. Just like vs d/d ele. Nothing is unbeatable with P/D thief but the fact is – it depend on a player.

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Posted by: stof.9341

stof.9341

Indeed. Ppl can fight vs nab P/D thief or pro P/D thief. Dodging CnD is pointless vs good ones beacuse they will fake it by dodging towards enemy losing no initiative.

You can also stow away your weapons to cancel a cast without burning a dodge.

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Posted by: vrilek.4038

vrilek.4038

Burning a dodge is on purpose. With swiftness you can reapply another real CnD on target very fast.

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Posted by: ensoriki.5789

ensoriki.5789

Go P/D berserker put Shadow strike on auto attack, and roll/face eliminating Sneak attack, while face smashing them, everytime.

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