Guild Wars 2

Wut what nerf? Where can I read up on this.

Ah yeah, cloak and dagger cast time will be increased by extra 2s, removed dodgerolls since we have stealth and dont need them, right? Shadows embrace will finally get that 10 s internal cooldown, which wont affect only d/p since they will remove one condition every leap through smoke field anyway. Sword 2 will no longer remove conditions and will have range reduced to 150 (we dont want to actually leave that aoe range, do we ?). Tactical stike will no longer daze or blind, but instead will cause 3 stacks of bleeds for 3s (since every physical weapon set must have mixed in damaging conditions that are completally useless). Flanking strike will no longer be double attack, will not remove boons of your target and will have requirement for you to actually have boons to cast it, each strike removing single boon from you. Dancing dagger will not be changed, since it allready works as intended – gets obstructed by air or just disappears into nowhere. Black powder circle will be doubled and its shot will bounce though 5 targets instantly blinding all of them. Shadow shot will have its ranged increased to 1500, its blind will become 600 radius aoe.. Preparations to remove every other weapon set but d/p will begin.

Sanduskel.1850:

I don’t see this class as a one trick pony and i reject the assumption that it’s less useful. People still hate this class so we must be doing something productive!

So, what do we REALLY have (especially in WvW, since 90% of the whining about thief stems from that), apart from D/P-D/D-P/D builds?

Effectiveness of Sword main is way below par to Dagger main (backstab + permastealth is the culprit in case of D/P, or backstab + CnD in case of D/D, which still does tons of damage in a very short time frame window while being able with both sets to troll opponents appearing and vanishing into thin air until they die or give up), and P/D is effective in spamming bleeding again due to entering/exiting stealth very frequently.

I play thief since beta, it’s always been my main class, but at least I’m honest enough to understand that in WvW (again, it’s in this “game mode” that we get the most complaints from opponents) we’re one trick ponies (the trick is stealth, stealth, stealth and again stealth) with nothing more to offer if we part from it.

We really have a lot of problems, not only linked to high burst damage with low risk involved, but even in other areas always linked to stealth: what about condition removal capabilities outside of Shadow’s Embrace? Can’t you see that stealth is superior even in this aspect? It’s the best way to cleanse conditions on thief (you can’t cleanse enough conditions spamming IS compared to SE, and being in the meantime protected from direct attacks since you’re in stealth).

Looking at the state of the game I feel thieves need a bit more durability defence wise.
I know we were given the lowest health band with a view to stealth access and blinds, but blinds/stealth don’t really do alot against all the aoe’s.

Let’s face it, there are ALOT of hard hitting aoes now in the game. And alot of chain cc’s. Seems whole host of classes can just drop aoe abilities without being phased by blinds. This is why rangers are such easy targets…..for pretty much everyone.

Yet they gave rangers an anti stealth buff….i’d be more worried about the hammer warrior no. 678 coming to 3 shot you after a leaping hammer stun.

phaeris.7604:

Looking at the state of the game I feel thieves need a bit more durability defence wise.
I know we were given the lowest health band with a view to stealth access and blinds, but blinds/stealth don’t really do alot against all the aoe’s.

Let’s face it, there are ALOT of hard hitting aoes now in the game. And alot of chain cc’s. Seems whole host of classes can just drop aoe abilities without being phased by blinds. This is why rangers are such easy targets…..for pretty much everyone.

Yet they gave rangers an anti stealth buff….i’d be more worried about the hammer warrior no. 678 coming to 3 shot you after a leaping hammer stun.

U haven’t met a good ranger then

Zacchary.6183:

As much as I would love to do that, I have no experience with programming. :I

Lemme go get a degree first.

:)

Still no PW fix… -_-

No, do not give thief more defense. I do not believe thief was ever meant to be warrior-mini. That would be putting it in the position of warrior-mini.

Do not give thief more HP (or not much anyway). Same reason.

Give us what the class is SUPPOSED to have, since it is built around it: Fast burst damage.

Pavel.8531:

Still no PW fix… -_-

the only fixes we will ever get will be in the form of a nerf bat.

They fixed the tooltip on SE, but it didn’t make the patch notes…..

Karolis.4261:

U haven’t met a good ranger then

I’ve fought ALOT of rangers, so guess i’ve just been unlucky. When I played my warrior rangers couldn’t get me down past 80 percent of my health (thankyou new healing signet) . On the thief they’re pretty straight forward to kill, but as you said, maybe I just haven’t met any decent ones.

Karolis.4261:

Pavel.8531:

Still no PW fix… -_-

the only fixes we will ever get will be in the form of a nerf bat.

This is for you.