So basilisk venom was nerfed
If this is true I’m just going to calmly ask WTF IS HAPPENING TO MY CLASS??
Shawtell, Zen Verani, Rayshia Howen, Iyado, Colace Nzoir, Arteel Fyrien [Teef]
If this is true I’m just going to calmly ask WTF IS HAPPENING TO MY CLASS??
It’s turning into a re-roll button.
One day, you’ll log in, hit to play the thief and be asked which class you want to replace it with. (Go for the guardian/warrior… they’re pretty solid options)
If this is true I’m just going to calmly ask WTF IS HAPPENING TO MY CLASS??
It’s turning into a re-roll button.
One day, you’ll log in, hit to play the thief and be asked which class you want to replace it with.
Like it literally seems like that’s the case. Might as well roll warrior now since they have around the same burst and higher sustain, oh wait feroc nerf, welp I have a necro anyway, condition time
Shawtell, Zen Verani, Rayshia Howen, Iyado, Colace Nzoir, Arteel Fyrien [Teef]
Could that just be another bug? The notes don’t sound anything remotely like that.
Either way; Defiant is already a mechanic that shouldn’t exist and is part of the “zerker party only” problem. =/ Why do such a thing? Is Guardian Immobilize doing this too? o.o
| Fort Aspenwood (NA): Sylvari Daredevil Thief Main: All Classes 80. |
Please Remove/Fix Thief Trait: “Last Refuge.”
“Hard to Catch” is a Horrible and Useless Trait. Fixed 6/23/15. Praise Dwayna.
(edited by Doggie.3184)
Aggreed, Doggie, it is a significant part of the reason for the zerker only plague.
I saw the ability to stun mobs when most couldn’t as a humongous utility to use when PVE grouping, so there are very few fights where I had anything else (just fights where a stun is outright useless, I’d then default to Thieves Guild, usually, or dagger storm if it’s a swarm AE fight)
The patch notes mention that it stopped a mob from being credited as interrupting itself. So from this I kind of gather that the reason it worked before was, I guess, the stun counted as coming from the mob.
Why this took nearly two years to change is beyond me.
Unreal.
Why would you use basi in pve thieves guild and dagger storm are much better.
Why would you use basi in pve thieves guild and dagger storm are much better.
BV ignored defiance, which meant you can interrupt some skills that are normally difficult to interrupt (and with venom share you can keep them still for roughly 3 seconds because no one seems to know what “rotate” means). Thieves guild is a horrible elite in dungeons, they don’t evade and get wiped out far to quick.
“I’m waiting for the staff to get off their lunch
break. I feel like they should be back by now..”
break. I feel like they should be back by now..”
Why would you use basi in pve thieves guild and dagger storm are much better.
BV ignored defiance, which meant you can interrupt some skills that are normally difficult to interrupt (and with venom share you can keep them still for roughly 3 seconds because no one seems to know what “rotate” means). Thieves guild is a horrible elite in dungeons, they don’t evade and get wiped out far to quick.
One thief applies blind which is extremely useful.
Why would you use basi in pve thieves guild and dagger storm are much better.
BV ignored defiance, which meant you can interrupt some skills that are normally difficult to interrupt (and with venom share you can keep them still for roughly 3 seconds because no one seems to know what “rotate” means). Thieves guild is a horrible elite in dungeons, they don’t evade and get wiped out far to quick.
One thief applies blind which is extremely useful.
Not just that but it fooled me for the longest time due to lack of circle, but that puff cloud of smoke is actually a smoke field as well
Shawtell, Zen Verani, Rayshia Howen, Iyado, Colace Nzoir, Arteel Fyrien [Teef]
Why would you use basi in pve thieves guild and dagger storm are much better.
BV ignored defiance, which meant you can interrupt some skills that are normally difficult to interrupt (and with venom share you can keep them still for roughly 3 seconds because no one seems to know what “rotate” means). Thieves guild is a horrible elite in dungeons, they don’t evade and get wiped out far to quick.
One thief applies blind which is extremely useful.
Not just that but it fooled me for the longest time due to lack of circle, but that puff cloud of smoke is actually a smoke field as well
It still isn’t better over dagger storm. In a boss setting, BV out performs TG because it ignores the almight defiant stacks while the thieves generaly get wiped out because blind doesn’t work to good against defiance. In a group utilizing LoS the blind although is neat isn’t long and the thieves die really quick from basic AoE (in high level fractals they get 1 shotted most of the time).
From someone who went through the burden of daily fotm 48, Dagger storm for groups and reflection, BV for bosses. TG just never cut it. Thankfully I got out of that kitten many many months ago, but I havn’t seen the functionality of TG change other than that it can be used underwater now (which is awesome!).
“I’m waiting for the staff to get off their lunch
break. I feel like they should be back by now..”
break. I feel like they should be back by now..”
I used to play thief. Then I rerolled warrior and guardian. I was royally kittened at how OP those two classes were and at how many buffs they were receiving. Later, I just quit GW2. Anet is not getting my money. I think EQ Next might do a better job.
Thieves have pretty poor skills to handle champion mobs anyway, since all classes can dodge. Making the elite worthless in even more places isn’t going to help. Time to get out the warrior and stack.
Why would you use basi in pve thieves guild and dagger storm are much better.
BV ignored defiance, which meant you can interrupt some skills that are normally difficult to interrupt (and with venom share you can keep them still for roughly 3 seconds because no one seems to know what “rotate” means). Thieves guild is a horrible elite in dungeons, they don’t evade and get wiped out far to quick.
One thief applies blind which is extremely useful.
Not just that but it fooled me for the longest time due to lack of circle, but that puff cloud of smoke is actually a smoke field as well
It still isn’t better over dagger storm. In a boss setting, BV out performs TG because it ignores the almight defiant stacks while the thieves generaly get wiped out because blind doesn’t work to good against defiance. In a group utilizing LoS the blind although is neat isn’t long and the thieves die really quick from basic AoE (in high level fractals they get 1 shotted most of the time).
From someone who went through the burden of daily fotm 48, Dagger storm for groups and reflection, BV for bosses. TG just never cut it. Thankfully I got out of that kitten many many months ago, but I havn’t seen the functionality of TG change other than that it can be used underwater now (which is awesome!).
NinjaEd pretty much nailed it. They all had their uses, with Thieves’ Guild really only being good for single target fights where you want more DPS and BV is not applicable (this is rare – only a few mobs prior to the patch ignored BV, even excluding the “world boss” types). Dagger Storm was just for the reflects or AE fights – and even then I only used it mostly as a heal combined with lifetap signet.
BV was great on a lot of bosses cause you could help out your group by interrupting a hard-hitting or otherwise significant skill on a boss. Now this generally will not happen because it no longer goes through defiance.
It was one of our few utilities in PVE apart from DPS.