Guild Wars 2

Just wondering.

Against… ?
Short answer alot dmg.

If you want numbers please go do tests on the dummies in the sPvP lobby. Note that during more then 1v1 fight there are various buffs and debuffs.

against high toughness characters. in spvp as full glass cannon build and only my self buffs, i have hit an ele that was all earth and toughness for about 8k multiple times. i only know he was full toughness cuz he whispered me after i killed him and was wanting to kinda know wtf just happened. aside from using 3 utilities and an elite skill to get crazy burst tho, i was hitting them for like half what i normally hit people.

too much actually. toughness is less effective against big hits than it is against many small hits.

CptCosmic.3156:

too much actually. toughness is less effective against big hits than it is against many small hits.

Care to elaborate on the math of that statement?

Since toughness reduces damage by % it’s the same. 3×1000 or 3000 hit, reduced by let’s say 50% is still 1.500 in both cases.

It would be true if toughness deducted from the damage, for example, reduce every hit for 500 damage, then 3×1000-3×500=1500 and 3000-500=2.500. (but it does not do that afaik).

I can tell you that on my warrior, I got hit with two hits in WvW from a thief. One hit was about 5K and the second hit was just under 12K. Yes I was dead. I never thought I would see a almost 12K hit but I did. Not sure what they both were but I think the 12k was backstab. I have a level 80 thief and I have no idea how he did that.

High power, and high crit damage makes for a very bursty build when you crit. The first would have been a low crit with cloak and dagger would be my guess, followed by the 12k backstab.

Thieves can do some crazy crits in wvw since they are in pve gear and can get their crit damage over 100, unlike in spvp i think the most a thief can get is like 60somethin more crit damage

6k per pitol whip if unlucky crits

When talking about balance, never, ever bring up WvW. There’s too many variables that anyone can hit.

Orbs, how powerful exotics are, et cetera.

“I can tell you that on my warrior, I got hit with two hits in WvW from a thief. One hit was about 5K and the second hit was just under 12K. Yes I was dead. I never thought I would see a almost 12K hit but I did. Not sure what they both were but I think the 12k was backstab. I have a level 80 thief and I have no idea how he did that.”

My guess is he has full berserker’s gear and he has a full stack of bloodlust (+250 power). With certain builds he can do a number of stacks of Might as he activates poison and signets, and he is able to inflict 5 or 6 stacks of vulnerability. Stealing can do damage as well so he can do something like

Cloak + dagger = 5k damage,
Steal = 2k damage,
If he has superior rune of air = 2k damage
Backstab = 10 k damage.

LoneWolfie.1852:

“I can tell you that on my warrior, I got hit with two hits in WvW from a thief. One hit was about 5K and the second hit was just under 12K. Yes I was dead. I never thought I would see a almost 12K hit but I did. Not sure what they both were but I think the 12k was backstab. I have a level 80 thief and I have no idea how he did that.”

My guess is he has full berserker’s gear and he has a full stack of bloodlust (+250 power). With certain builds he can do a number of stacks of Might as he activates poison and signets, and he is able to inflict 5 or 6 stacks of vulnerability. Stealing can do damage as well so he can do something like

Cloak + dagger = 5k damage,
Steal = 2k damage,
If he has superior rune of air = 2k damage
Backstab = 10 k damage.

they do way more dmg than that
wearing full exotic thoughnes precision and condition dmg plus orbs plus food

and heres the result
all this dmg done in less than 2 seconds evaded his backstab tho

ohh and becouse of this culling bug he can attack and we dont see thief

Just cause you cant see his pixels doesn’t mean you cant tab to him an start hitting him. I am a thief and I fight other thieves. I have no problem attacking them while they are invis from culling. Just tab target and stop depending on your pixels and watch your UI. It’s a known issue that hasn’t been fixed yet… time to adapt.

saurus that is a hell of a mug shot.

i don’t think i’ve ever seen over 5k on a mug. you got fondled pretty hard there :p