Guild Wars 2

I’ve been messing around w/ a P/P build and when I’m auto attacking with pistol, sometimes I want to hit the BP button and shoot a sneak attack. BUT! It auto reveals me because I’m already attacking or my bullet is in transit or whatever. Does this still happen to anyone else?

Yep, landing a damaging attack while in stealth reveals you. No matter if the attack is cast in or out of stealth.

There are ways to take advantage of this and there ways that harm you.

One thing that has happened for all thieves with the first minor trait in SA is the trait Last Refuge having its proc in the middle of Cloak and Dagger (or other stuff like AA) cast time causing the cloak and dagger hit to reveal you.

Some basic ways to use it to an advantage:
Clusterbomb>BS>Steal
Surprise Shot>Surprise Shot
Surprise shot>wpn swp>Sneak Attack

With some distance the projectile spends more time in the air without landing and dealing dmg, allowing additional attacks or stealth attacks while in stealth.

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It’s not broken – You just arent utilizing it the right way… if a bullet is in flight do not stealth – it happens to everyone this is how revealed works

If you are in stealth and want to combo with BP untarget your enemy and use BP so it does not hit anyone then sneak attack your target through the BP to apply some blinds

Ghostwolf.9863:

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That’s awesome, I’ve never thought about using it that way! I’ll give it a try.

Narkodx.1472:

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It’s not broken – You just arent utilizing it the right way… if a bullet is in flight do not stealth – it happens to everyone this is how revealed works

If you are in stealth and want to combo with BP untarget your enemy and use BP so it does not hit anyone then sneak attack your target through the BP to apply some blinds

LOL, I don’t know about that. There isn’t any other instance where BP will insta-reveal you because it stops attacking automatically. You’re telling me, that in order to use this skill I have to stop attacking, THEN use it? Sounds more like a workaround than working as intended.

Lamuness.3570:

Ghostwolf.9863:

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That’s awesome, I’ve never thought about using it that way! I’ll give it a try.

Narkodx.1472:

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It’s not broken – You just arent utilizing it the right way… if a bullet is in flight do not stealth – it happens to everyone this is how revealed works

If you are in stealth and want to combo with BP untarget your enemy and use BP so it does not hit anyone then sneak attack your target through the BP to apply some blinds

LOL, I don’t know about that. There isn’t any other instance where BP will insta-reveal you because it stops attacking automatically. You’re telling me, that in order to use this skill I have to stop attacking, THEN use it? Sounds more like a workaround than working as intended.

It is almost like you started playing thief yesterday… the revealed mechanics have been here since day one

If there is a projectile in flight and I stealth before it lands I will be revealed when it lands… period thats it – working this way since the game has been released

for this same reason throw gunk will reveal you if you stealth while someone is standing on it – it pulses damage which reveals you if you are stealth

nothing is broken there is no bug

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If it’s a bug, it’s one ANet intends on leaving since they’ve specifically stated they want projectiles working this way in past discussions. It’s also been this way since release. Know your skills, or just don’t use BP while stealthed and follow up with it after using sneak attack.

sneak attack on p/p?

It’s not a bug – blinding powder also blinds the target wherever they are, as well as drop the field. If you want to drop BP and not be revealed, you have to make sure you’re not going to hit anything (drop target first). Then you can BP in stealth to your heart’s content.

Lamuness.3570:

I’ve been messing around w/ a P/P build and when I’m auto attacking with pistol, sometimes I want to hit the BP button and shoot a sneak attack. BUT! It auto reveals me because I’m already attacking or my bullet is in transit or whatever. Does this still happen to anyone else?

You might want to check if your bullets Ricochet. If it bounces and you’re in stealth, you’ll be revealed when it deals damage.

Same scenario with Dancing Daggers and Shortbow AA.

Wait a minute, I think everyone’s assuming I’m talking about Black Powder Shot (BPS). Not thief Offhand Pistol 5, I’m talking about Blinding Powder (BP). LOL Yes, I know if I shoot someone with 5, a projectile comes out as well as a field gets dropped. Since when does pressing 5 give me stealth other than blasting or leaping thru it?

I’m talking about I use my 7 utility skill even while auto attack cast time is starting, I will get insta-revealed. The same thing happened before when I would want to trigger Shadow Trap while I’m auto attacking. So this being the case, if you’re telling me that I have to untarget first, and then hit blinding powder, it sounds like a work around because again, stealthing stops every other auto attack.

Lamuness.3570:

Wait a minute, I think everyone’s assuming I’m talking about Black Powder Shot (BPS). Not thief Offhand Pistol 5, I’m talking about Blinding Powder (BP). LOL Yes, I know if I shoot someone with 5, a projectile comes out as well as a field gets dropped. Since when does pressing 5 give me stealth other than blasting or leaping thru it?

I’m talking about I use my 7 utility skill even while auto attack cast time is starting, I will get insta-revealed. The same thing happened before when I would want to trigger Shadow Trap while I’m auto attacking. So this being the case, if you’re telling me that I have to untarget first, and then hit blinding powder, it sounds like a work around because again, stealthing stops every other auto attack.

ctrl+click on your 1 skill and turn auto attack off. as a thief you need to attack manually or getting insta-revealed will happen often. It’s working as intended, turn it off and you will feel much more in control, no need to untarget

Another trick you can use is to forcibly sheath your weapons prior to stealthing. I don’t believe this is bound by default, but you can bind it in the keybinding menu in the options. For instance, I put mine on ctrl+z. Sometimes you have to spam it a bit, but it’ll force your character to put their weapons away, thus halting auto-attacks even if you’re in combat.

Of course, you can still run into the same issue of auto-revealing if you stealth while a projectile is in transit. It just helps you stop your auto-attack chain so the air is cleared of projectiles before stealthing.

I’ve noticed that when you’re stealthed, if you do certain abilities with a target, your character may resume their auto-attacks, even if the skill was not an offensive ability. It’s a similar case with how an engineer can drop a med pack with an enemy targeted, and swapping back to their weapons will initiate an auto-attack string even though they weren’t attacking the target to begin with. In those instances, you just want to ensure you have cleared your target selection (much like if you were using a leap skill to get away). UNFORTUNATELY, they’ve never created a bindable “detarget” command, so you have to click on the screen and hope a zerg or some random moa isn’t there.