Guild Wars 2

We have to be the most hated class in the game. Everything about us is deemed “overpowered.”

So I ask you.. How are we meant to be played? Im curious how both, thieves and non-thieves, believe we should played.

I think we should be played like this.

http://youtu.be/BgLc7FeqNzA

:)

Clearly the answer is that no one should play thieves in pvp. The stealthy/rogue archetype is always easy to hate on, no matter how powerful it actually is. For this reason game developers use it as a scapegoat for balancing, nerfing the class continuously in order to appease the “mindless masses”.

Just play a mesmer or warrior in pvp. Depending on which part of the thief playstyle you like the most either of those classes will fit fairly well.

Obviously with thieves guild, the thief trap, and the trap proc during revive trickery trait!

And celestial amulet, dwayna runes, pistol dagger, and withdraw heal. And shadow refuge ;D

You’re supposed to autoattack and let other people kill you, doing anything else is OP

Woh man, Devildoc, WOH, Thief autoattack on a Sword is an AoE, that kitten is WAY to OP! Anything but dagger auto from 1200 range is WAY to OP!!!

Talking about traits: you can go with bothermaster of pvp, full defense vit/tough (dodges and stealth everywhere). You can go a good glass cannon of crit with crit/vit, you can go dumb crap glass cannon with pow/crit, you can go with a good cond dmg build of trickery/tough aaand that’s all i’ve tried so far.

Just remember, no one ever posts, “man, am I ever content with my class” or “wow, I just played against an X, and boy, was that an an enjoyable and balanced fight!”. Yeah, we might get a bit more forum agg than the other classes, but there’s no hard evidence that we’re the bestest ever. Top spvpers tend toward other classes, and that’s one of the best indicators out there.

There are only few things on the Thief that are deemed OP by the community. Spamseeker, espcially with Haste, because it’s a lot sure-hit damage with a gap closer, PW Haste (been toned down, but still shreds people in seconds while perma-stunning them), Backstab /w Signet (really, not called to be OP in sPvP, but it’s annoying to get 1 shotted in WvW) and perma-stealth aka lag that makes Thieves still be invisible aboust 2 seconds after they came out of stealth.

All of that is justified.

Another complaint that you don’t hear that often, is Thief underwater skills that make him permanently invulnerable if you manage them properly. Also a justified complaint.

The way you want to play it.

I play a stealth bleeding thief that bleeds and disappears. Loving WvW so far, as I can disturb a zerg for a few seconds and still make it out alive.

Edelweiss.9815:

There are only few things on the Thief that are deemed OP by the community. Spamseeker, espcially with Haste, because it’s a lot sure-hit damage with a gap closer, PW Haste (been toned down, but still shreds people in seconds while perma-stunning them), Backstab /w Signet (really, not called to be OP in sPvP, but it’s annoying to get 1 shotted in WvW) and perma-stealth aka lag that makes Thieves still be invisible aboust 2 seconds after they came out of stealth.

All of that is justified.

Another complaint that you don’t hear that often, is Thief underwater skills that make him permanently invulnerable if you manage them properly. Also a justified complaint.

You get more damage from autoattacking than from spamspeek above 50%, its a little above seeker i think, still you can dps better from other ways, and just below 25% the damage gets serious. So spamseeker is the most hurrdurr and lowest dps of all types of thieves.

pw haste death = you had no serious survability skills with you. Therefore, you deserve to die.

backstab w/signet, well, if you arent expecting it you can really get annoyed by this one :p.

Perma-stalth is more annoying than dangerous. still autoattacking when he’s invi can help a lot.

The one underwater its pretty hardcore imo haha, depending on your class you can have a real bad time in capricorn against a thief heh. This is the only one that i COULD find a justified complaint. Still its not anything that cant be bypassed.

Equip a dagger. Don’t bother with an offhand.

Put 30 points into the trait line that gives you extra precision. Don’t worry about actually selecting traits or putting points into any other trait tree.

Put all signets on your bar for utilities. Go into PvP. Spam 2 until you win.

Every now and then something might kill you, or maybe a group of enemies will fight you together to do it, but that’s okay because they’ll slowly be nerfed even further over the course of the next five weeks. After all, thief is fine, so if they can kill you they must be too strong.

Aside from the fact that HS spamming isn’t gonna get anything done, there’s plenty of ways to play Thief.

First off, don’t bother with Spvp. It really is terrible. I roll a support thief ( Shared and leeching venoms +stealth/regen/allied healing) with d/p or p/d +sb. I run shortbow to apply group weakness (poison field +clusterbomb finisher), poisons, and bleeds and throw down my Refuge during fights for lifesteal.

You aren’t going to be seeing huge numbers but you sure as hell are helpful with the control and regen/healing.

There is no “should”, I have never played my class like others. That is why I dominate, win and end up on top. Play the game the way you want, as long as you are good at the game, you will win.