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Posted by: Razon.8153

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Most of the time I used full berserker equip and build with little to no survivability (15 in acrobatics)

Tier 1

Halmi Hammerfell – easy, just dodge the big blow

Doobroosh – CnD+Backstab 2 times, retreat, repeat. If you want the achievement then p/p + thieves guild, or p/d condition build + thieves guild

Windcaller Kieldia – take haste, thieves guild, precision and power signets, burst her almost instantly, easily doable with the burning gambit for the achievement

Suriel the Blazing Light – nothing much to say, it’s more about learning what to do, burst her when she’s vulnerable

Tier 2

Tyre Ragemaw – d/d burst, evade

Masticus – collect orbs, easily doable with d/d or p/d condition build (bleeds do 1k+ damage per tick with enough stacks of bloodlust)

Salazan – p/p, stay in fire aoe, strafe the attacks and unload on him

The crew of the pirate ship Ravenous – Captain-melee guy-healer-ranged guy
This is more about luck, use steal on the captain, if you got the invulnerability bottle you won, use it when things get messy. Thieves guild for elite

Tier 3

Subject 7 – extreme burst needed here, haste, thieves guild, kill him before he has a chance to heal. Took me around 8 seconds.

Deadeye Dunwell- d/d, avoid his traps and laser, burst him

Strugar and Chomper – Get S/P, 15 traits in trickery (more initiative), spam the aoe blind and autoattack, haste and thieves guild to speed it up a little. You can be stationary all the time, ignore the meat. – Credit to MegiddoZO at Reddit

Liadri the Concealing Dark – Hardest fight but doable (don’t be surprised at 20+ tries), I used this build http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1jtwik/beating_liadri_on_thief/

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Posted by: Midnattsol.4503

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Great tips for Thieves. Took me nearly 20 attempts to defeat Windcaller. Was so bad I was raging for the first time in GW2. I tweaked my buddies build and just burned her down with melee, instead of p/d which was getting me nowhere but against the cage and constantly knocked down.

What sucks is that Windcaller was so tough (for me) and Suriel was extremely easy.

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

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windcaller i got on first try. i use p/d the entire way just to finish. then i had to go back and use d/p for a few of the special acvhiements.

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Posted by: Barfoi.9537

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I completed all but Liadri within 1-3 tries using: 10/30/0/0/30, Valkyrie armor w/ rest berserker, and basically only P/P (8-10k+ unload spam). The only mobility was from utilities (e.g., Withdraw, Roll for Initiative, Shadowstep), but I adjusted those per fight (in addition to flipping some trait abilities).

For Liadri, however, the pressure from her constant ranged attacks in Phase 1 distracted me enough (only 13k~ hp) that I kept making mistakes, and come Phase 2, was completed destroyed. :-) I tried 30+ times yesterday (had hoped I wouldn’t have to regear/retrait), and the fight was always completely out of my control.

Today, I switched back to my old condition set (full carrion), P/D, and a tweaked 0/0/30/20/20, and downed her within 10~ tries. Getting orbs on her was MUCH easier without constant pressure (stealth, regen, condition removal, mobility), and by the time Phase 2 started, a full stack of bleeds (caltrops + dodge caltrops) already downed her health to 60% very quickly. The rest was just frantically staying alive, while keeping bleeds on her. ;D

I’m not that great of a player (e.g., lazy mouse-clicker, slow mobility-response), so if you’re struggling, then this approach might help. High burst-damage is just very volatile if you don’t control the fight (which thieves can easily do).

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

Travlane.5948

i used condi p/d for liadra. not worth trying to get withing melee range. she does weakness and cripple on you plus u have to dodge every 5 seconds. try p/d for liadra. 50% engery sigil….. HIS…..sigil of accuracy….Shadow refuge….blinding powder…..thieves guild.
CND the rifts. good luck i did it pretty easy….gettting all 8 orbs when im done farming prolly

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Posted by: Azraelle.1683

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Or you can spec s/d and faceroll everything without changing your build. Only difficult fight i had was with that sniper guy and his kitten mines.

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Posted by: Coldin.2840

Coldin.2840

I’d love to see a video of sword/dagger against Liadri. I’m just not sure how that setup would deal with her damage and all the aoes.

I’ve heard a thief beat her with mostly shortbow, so I think I will try that out.

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Posted by: ryokoalways.3450

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Standard full burst will be sufficient for just beating every one of the enemies (25/30/0/15/0). Just switch out skills, traits, and weapons accordingly. The only thing I had problem with is 2nd to last because I immediately went for the achievement (3 tries), and darkness (4 tries).

For gambit, immediately go for 5 gambit, as it fills 5, 3, and 2. It doesn’t get you the 1 gambit achievement for some reason, but that’s easy after doing 5. I went even more burst (30/30/0/0/10) and did the sniper. The margin of error is small in this fight, so it may take a few tries, but you have more than enough dmg output if you use your skills in the right order. I took all gambit except crowd pleaser (or whatever it’s called).

Have not started doing 8 light orbs. Trying to theorycraft correct build first.

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Posted by: Geiir.7603

Geiir.7603

Did all of them with S/P, except for Subject 7 (wanted the achievement, so I went with D/P). Haven’t defeated Liadri yet though… Probably going for a condition build on her tonight.

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

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p/d is great on liadri. realy it works bc u dont need melee range and u have lots of energy and lots of invis when u need a break.

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Posted by: Excalibur.9748

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I did most of them with S/P, some with shortbow, some with P/P.

I’m going to try Liadri tonight with either S/P + P/P or S/P + shortbow tonight. I know condition build will work but I want to crush her second form with pistol whips ftw.

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

Travlane.5948

I did most of them with S/P, some with shortbow, some with P/P.

I’m going to try Liadri tonight with either S/P + P/P or S/P + shortbow tonight. I know condition build will work but I want to crush her second form with pistol whips ftw.

its not liadri u fight. i mean it is…but its the clones you really have to watch out for which are generally all over her most of the time.

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Posted by: Excalibur.9748

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I did most of them with S/P, some with shortbow, some with P/P.

I’m going to try Liadri tonight with either S/P + P/P or S/P + shortbow tonight. I know condition build will work but I want to crush her second form with pistol whips ftw.

its not liadri u fight. i mean it is…but its the clones you really have to watch out for which are generally all over her most of the time.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/jubilee/Warrior-How-to-faceroll-Liadri/first#post2585512

i know warrior is op, but i want to faceroll liadri too ;_;

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

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yeah warriors did it pretty well i hear.

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

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hard for us to faceroll with the revealed bug. 60 secs of reaveald? wtf

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Posted by: Excalibur.9748

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hard for us to faceroll with the revealed bug. 60 secs of reaveald? wtf

we can’t faceroll anything cuz ANET keeps nerfing us and buffing warriors.

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Posted by: ryokoalways.3450

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Thief has it just as easy in the gauntlet.

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

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Thief has it just as easy in the gauntlet.

really? go try do deadeye with frailty and squeemish gambits for the acheivement …dont mind the autmatic 60 sec revealed buff everytime :P gluck.

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Posted by: ryokoalways.3450

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I did 5 gambit on deadeye >.>. Read my post.

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

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did u use tremor? where is post?

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Posted by: ryokoalways.3450

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Just above the one I just posted. I took burning, less dmg, more dmg taken, can’t roll, and crippled.

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Posted by: Pinch.4273

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Thief has it just as easy in the gauntlet.

really? go try do deadeye with frailty and squeemish gambits for the acheivement …dont mind the autmatic 60 sec revealed buff everytime :P gluck.

5 gambit Deadeye takes me a whopping 30 seconds and has absolutely no randomness to it. Revealed doesn’t even matter.

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Posted by: Gwalchgwn.1659

Gwalchgwn.1659

Deadeye (with criple and no dodge gambit) is beatable in 17.23 seconds … At least that’s my current record.
D/P makes it easy game: BP – steal and start auto attacking
Use scorpion wire on first teleport (autoattacking again)
Use Shadow shot for second teleport
(If needed: use shadowstep to mid and shadowshot again for third teleport, but if you can kill him in less than 25 seconds there is no need for this tactic)

Ps: for the 17 seconds record I also use thieves guild and ambush.

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

Travlane.5948

Thief has it just as easy in the gauntlet.

really? go try do deadeye with frailty and squeemish gambits for the acheivement …dont mind the autmatic 60 sec revealed buff everytime :P gluck.

5 gambit Deadeye takes me a whopping 30 seconds and has absolutely no randomness to it. Revealed doesn’t even matter.

i ran an invis build. i really dont like s/d or s/p for anything other than spvp. just kinda stupid that there is a TIMER (made so you cant hide or take ur sweet kitten time) AND a 60 sec reveal buff. i mean really thats just rediculous. its saying you cant play thief unless ur not going to use stealth. that means no init gain no condi removal no blinds no regen no init regen no backstab no sneak attack no tactical strike etc etc. seems like alot to take away. imagine if they did that to another class. ouch.

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

Travlane.5948

Deadeye (with criple and no dodge gambit) is beatable in 17.23 seconds … At least that’s my current record.
D/P makes it easy game: BP – steal and start auto attacking
Use scorpion wire on first teleport (autoattacking again)
Use Shadow shot for second teleport
(If needed: use shadowstep to mid and shadowshot again for third teleport, but if you can kill him in less than 25 seconds there is no need for this tactic)

Ps: for the 17 seconds record I also use thieves guild and ambush.

this is what i did but i used less dmg done and more dmg incoming (frailty and squeemish) for the achivement. so i used condi so the squeemish wouldnt matter…. i use scorp wire ambush TG etc and worked fun. but i only got off 1 or 2 sneak attacks the rest i just auto attacked and dodged. my poinjt is thakittens just stupid …idk if this is a bug or what b ut 60 secs of revealed? they didnt mention anything why this is in there. must be a bug.

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Posted by: Pinch.4273

Pinch.4273

i ran an invis build. i really dont like s/d or s/p for anything other than spvp. just kinda stupid that there is a TIMER (made so you cant hide or take ur sweet kitten time) AND a 60 sec reveal buff. i mean really thats just rediculous. its saying you cant play thief unless ur not going to use stealth. that means no init gain no condi removal no blinds no regen no init regen no backstab no sneak attack no tactical strike etc etc. seems like alot to take away. imagine if they did that to another class. ouch.

Don’t run an invis build for him. It costs 3.5s to respec.

You probably don’t even need to respec. Just put a pistol in your offhand and spam blinding powder and autoattack him.

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

Travlane.5948

i ran an invis build. i really dont like s/d or s/p for anything other than spvp. just kinda stupid that there is a TIMER (made so you cant hide or take ur sweet kitten time) AND a 60 sec reveal buff. i mean really thats just rediculous. its saying you cant play thief unless ur not going to use stealth. that means no init gain no condi removal no blinds no regen no init regen no backstab no sneak attack no tactical strike etc etc. seems like alot to take away. imagine if they did that to another class. ouch.

Don’t run an invis build for him. It costs 3.5s to respec.

You probably don’t even need to respec. Just put a pistol in your offhand and spam blinding powder and autoattack him.

oh i already won everything and every achivement lol im just saying. idk why they have a bug like that. seems almost too coincidental. only thing im missing is 8 crystals on liadra. i have everything else :P i havent tried that but im sure its quite doable.

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Posted by: Coldin.2840

Coldin.2840

Finally beat Liadri!! It was pretty dicy, but I beat her just moments before she killed me.

I actually used a surprising build for her, that changed a bit as I progressed. 10/30/0/30/0

I started out using Bow, but after some time, I switched over to Dual Pistols. I used Steal to get rid of the orbs and to give myself a bit of healing. I had Withdraw and Roll for Initiative to give myself some extra dodges., and Shadow Refuge to prepare for Phase 2. Vigor of healing meant that I had a few extra dodges to work with as well. +2 Initiative every 10 seconds, and Healing on Initiative Spent.

The rest of it was DPS traits. +10% pistol damage. Fury when target reaches 50%. +20% damage when target reaches 50%.

Phase 2 was basically all just a kiting fest, stacking bleeds and vulnerability and railing into her with Unload when I got a chance. Using my dodges when I needed to, but mostly staying close to the center to quickly get out of the AOEs.

I’m not really sure if I could have beat her with Shortbow. Simply was not dealing much DPS against her.

I think I’ll be showing her off for a while as I go about Tyria.

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Posted by: KitaYumi.7048

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Just beat Liadri myself as well, using the build and tips in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWdac-LBPwM

Now I want to try for some Gambits to get the meta-achievement, and I have a question about that. Does the perma-blind on Chomper work during most Gambits as well? If so, I am just going to fight him and do it the same way as I did before.

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Posted by: Hickeroar.9734

Hickeroar.9734

Can someone please explain to me the utterly and completely moronic logic ANet is using in applying a permanent revealed debuff to thieves in some of these fights?

They’d actually screw over an entire core class mechanic? I mean….I am flabbergasted. Why don’t you make mesmer’s illusions not spawn? No turrets or supply drops for engineers? No conditions for necros! Sorry rangers, your pets do no damage!

Oh wait, you only screwed over thieves.

Unbelievable.

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Posted by: Hickeroar.9734

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i ran an invis build. i really dont like s/d or s/p for anything other than spvp. just kinda stupid that there is a TIMER (made so you cant hide or take ur sweet kitten time) AND a 60 sec reveal buff. i mean really thats just rediculous. its saying you cant play thief unless ur not going to use stealth. that means no init gain no condi removal no blinds no regen no init regen no backstab no sneak attack no tactical strike etc etc. seems like alot to take away. imagine if they did that to another class. ouch.

Don’t run an invis build for him. It costs 3.5s to respec.

You probably don’t even need to respec. Just put a pistol in your offhand and spam blinding powder and autoattack him.

Stealth is a CORE MECHANIC of the thief class. Removing it is a slap in the face to everyone who rolled a thief.

EDIT: also, every fight that I’ve had that has the permanent revealed debuff is also immune to blind. It’s a double slap in the face.

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Posted by: Gwalchgwn.1659

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To hickeroar, permanent revealed debuff enemies are still blindable.

If you have trouble with the first fight (pirates): Use shortbow and a D/P or D/D. Withdraw as healing skill
Kill the two melee ppl first (the thief first, then captain) and then go for healer and then for the pistoleer. Focus on using shortbow at start so the melee enemies can’t poison you or w/e. After that you can switch to D/P or D/D to quickly kill the remaining two (no use taking sword since the enemies fully heal up after one of them dies)

Second stealth guy is deadeye I think. Scorpion wire and D/P is all you rly need.
And maybe executioner (30 in critical strikes). Start by going in the mid with steal or #3. When he teleports use SW. When he teleports again use #3. You got two more utilities you can choose so pick some skills that help you kill him faster (in term of dmg)

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Posted by: Hickeroar.9734

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I got the pirates. They were all invulnerable to blind though. Didn’t work at all.

I just didn’t try at deadeye once I noticed the debuff because I was so irritated that ANet made you unable to stealth. It’s such a ridiculous tactic that makes no sense at all. I can’t imagine why they ONLY targeted thieves there. Absolute troll tactic.

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

Travlane.5948

i ran an invis build. i really dont like s/d or s/p for anything other than spvp. just kinda stupid that there is a TIMER (made so you cant hide or take ur sweet kitten time) AND a 60 sec reveal buff. i mean really thats just rediculous. its saying you cant play thief unless ur not going to use stealth. that means no init gain no condi removal no blinds no regen no init regen no backstab no sneak attack no tactical strike etc etc. seems like alot to take away. imagine if they did that to another class. ouch.

Don’t run an invis build for him. It costs 3.5s to respec.

You probably don’t even need to respec. Just put a pistol in your offhand and spam blinding powder and autoattack him.

Stealth is a CORE MECHANIC of the thief class. Removing it is a slap in the face to everyone who rolled a thief.

EDIT: also, every fight that I’ve had that has the permanent revealed debuff is also immune to blind. It’s a double slap in the face.

cant tell if this is a bug or not. its def biased…no reason for this as there is no skill in game that can do this. so its either a bug or more proof anet hates thieves! yeah no other classes were nerfed like this so i wonder the idea behind it. i dont like being PUSHED into played sword pistol or sword dagger. bs.

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Posted by: Heizero.9183

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<—- my build for getting High Stakes Gambler. i also used a similiar build minus some of the utilities and traits to beat liadri and the 4 pirates.

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Posted by: Kiriwar.7382

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How do you beat the Pirate Crew? I cannot seem to stay alive for more than a few seconds after I defeat the first one. I try to kill Stitches first.

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Posted by: Excalibur.9748

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How do you beat the Pirate Crew? I cannot seem to stay alive for more than a few seconds after I defeat the first one. I try to kill Stitches first.

pistol whip spam works really nice with a 4-signet build. after it’s just one left, bring out dual pistols and spam unload.

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How do you beat the Pirate Crew? I cannot seem to stay alive for more than a few seconds after I defeat the first one. I try to kill Stitches first.

pistol whip spam works really nice with a 4-signet build. after it’s just one left, bring out dual pistols and spam unload.

What signet build is this? It’s been around 15 times now and I can’t kill more than two of them :c

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Posted by: Iavra.8510

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Did the “kill no other oozes”-achievement for Subject 7 on my thief. P/D condi build, dropped Caltrops at the beginning, used poison + torment venom and moved along the wall, CnD’ing on oozes that spawned behind me.

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

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2 init on signet use
5 might on signet use for 10 secs each
5% dmg on dual skills
10% chance to gain rage on crit
20% dmg under 50% hp

25 30 0 0 15 build.

1/2 zerk 1/2 valk …something like this with S/P and S/P works great.

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

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Did the “kill no other oozes”-achievement for Subject 7 on my thief. P/D condi build, dropped Caltrops at the beginning, used poison + torment venom and moved along the wall, CnD’ing on oozes that spawned behind me.

thats what i did too. also used scorp wire to get him away from his mini army

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Posted by: Excalibur.9748

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How do you beat the Pirate Crew? I cannot seem to stay alive for more than a few seconds after I defeat the first one. I try to kill Stitches first.

pistol whip spam works really nice with a 4-signet build. after it’s just one left, bring out dual pistols and spam unload.

What signet build is this? It’s been around 15 times now and I can’t kill more than two of them :c

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Liadra-guide-for-non-zerk-direct-damage/first#post2596022

But swap the acrobatics trait with quick recovery, 2init per 10 seconds since you don’t need to cleanse cripple or weakness.

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Posted by: Kiriwar.7382

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Thanks, I’ll try it.

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Posted by: Kiriwar.7382

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@Excalibur, it worked on the first try after my re-build! thanks so much!

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Posted by: Excalibur.9748

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@Excalibur, it worked on the first try after my re-build! thanks so much!

np build works for every single fight in gauntlet too. including liadri. after i killed liadri i went back and absolutely schooled everyone else, just replaced the one acrobatics trait for quick recovery that’s it.

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Posted by: Gwalchgwn.1659

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How do you beat the Pirate Crew? I cannot seem to stay alive for more than a few seconds after I defeat the first one. I try to kill Stitches first.

Go for the two melee ppl first using shortbow (disabling shot to gain distance, and some dodges if you reach edge of the dome), first the thief (first mate) and then the captain
Once they are dead, switch to melee (i went for D/P) and kill stitch first and then the gunner.
Didn’t rly pose a big difficulty for me

Ooze achievement: I just went full zerk traits and utilities (thieves guild, ambush, assassin’s signet and haste) and went D/D. Just bursted him as fast as possible (ambush, thieves guild and your D/D setup all only hit 1 person, sub-7)

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