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Posted by: Babayum.9204

Babayum.9204

Was playing around with my S/D traits because i wanted to use D/P on my second weapon set to have access to the stealth self combo. Many of you probably know that it’s possible to achieve perma stealth with D/P which i wanted to integrate into my S/D build. While testing various trait setups i kinda stumbled across something really cool.

If you go 30 into SA and pick up Shadow’s Rejuvenation and spend another 20 points into Acrobatics to get Assassins Reward you heal very fast while doing the perma stealth combo. I really recommend trying this out if you’re playing a rather tanky S/D build because you can heal urself back to full really fast and it has absolutely no cooldown. I ended up going 0 / 20 / 30 / 20 / 0 to maintain some dps (my old one was 0 / 30 / 30 / 10 / 0 ).

Here’s a video to showcase the healing capability (I have 576 Healing P. in this video, 300 from traits and 276 from gear). I regenerate 13k hp in around 18 seconds here. As you can see here tho there are some small windows where you are visible but stealth uptime in D/P is at around 90%. To achieve perma stealth you have to pick 1 different trait but the healing wont be nearly as high.

Hope someone can make a use out of it ! Also apologize if old !

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Posted by: Lofat.2406

Lofat.2406

Assassins Reward is definately a good trait to use on any build. Pain Response is another. The breakdown for Assassins Reward is like this:

At level 80, this heals you for 69 + (0.035 x healing power) per point of initiative spent. Healing is applied in one sum at the end of the skill animation.

So for example, I have +588 healing power. CnD costs 6 Init. This in turn heals me for 89.58 ( 69 + 20.58 ) per init spent. Since CnD costs 6 init, every time I use it I’ll heal for 537. And after that I’ll stay in stealth for 3-4 seconds and get heals from Shadows Rejuv. It’s a great trait to pick up.

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Posted by: Babayum.9204

Babayum.9204

Assassins Reward is definately a good trait to use on any build. Pain Response is another. The breakdown for Assassins Reward is like this:

At level 80, this heals you for 69 + (0.035 x healing power) per point of initiative spent. Healing is applied in one sum at the end of the skill animation.

So for example, I have +588 healing power. CnD costs 6 Init. This in turn heals me for 89.58 ( 69 + 20.58 ) per init spent. Since CnD costs 6 init, every time I use it I’ll heal for 537. And after that I’ll stay in stealth for 3-4 seconds and get heals from Shadows Rejuv. It’s a great trait to pick up.

Yea man definetly. Never really tried it out before but really fell in love with it. CnD heals around 800 instantly everytime you use it if u have 30 in SA too.

My post was more about the synergy between the self combo + Shadow rejuv + assassins reward which heals so fast while being completely invisible the whole time. Whenever i’m at around 50% health i swap weapons spam this for 9s untill i can swap again and come out with near full hp again. It’s really game changing on a “bunker” / control type S/D thief.

I wonder how much health u gain per second with full healing gear doing this, sadly im short on gold atm ^^

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Posted by: Rayya.2591

Rayya.2591

it could be an decent healing
however , if you spam cluster bombs with shortbow and omnomberry ghost you can get 5x 352 /cluster or 3*352 / trick shot
with enough defence (2700 + ) you can facetank 10-20 mobs

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Posted by: Babayum.9204

Babayum.9204

it could be an decent healing
however , if you spam cluster bombs with shortbow and omnomberry ghost you can get 5x 352 /cluster or 3*352 / trick shot
with enough defence (2700 + ) you can facetank 10-20 mobs

Yea !

I use that when i run dungeons together with SoM. (works very well with a sword in the main hand too)

What i posted has its best use in WvW because it’s not target dependant. You dont need X amount of enemy around to take full advantage of the healing.

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Posted by: Stiv.1820

Stiv.1820

Problem is you need the 2 per 10 so unless you go 30 into acro it would be hard to pick up but then you don’t have those 10 points to put into crit or whatever to help your damage.

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Posted by: Babayum.9204

Babayum.9204

Problem is you need the 2 per 10 so unless you go 30 into acro it would be hard to pick up but then you don’t have those 10 points to put into crit or whatever to help your damage.

Hehe, i thought the same before i tried it out. Gain 2 Ini per 10 secs is nice and needed if you want to have 100% stealth uptime but im running without it and it works good enough. Stealth uptime is at around 80-90% if you start doing the rotation with full Ini.

I’m going with 0 / 20 / 30 / 20 / 0

VI, X
V, X, XI
VI, X

If don’t need Fleet Shadow i recommend Might on Dodge / Vigor on Healing

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Posted by: Stiv.1820

Stiv.1820

Problem is you need the 2 per 10 so unless you go 30 into acro it would be hard to pick up but then you don’t have those 10 points to put into crit or whatever to help your damage.

Hehe, i thought the same before i tried it out. Gain 2 Ini per 10 secs is nice and needed if you want to have 100% stealth uptime but im running without it and it works good enough. Stealth uptime is at around 80-90% if you start doing the rotation with full Ini.

I’m going with 0 / 20 / 30 / 20 / 0

VI, X
V, X, XI
VI, X

If don’t need Fleet Shadow i recommend Might on Dodge / Vigor on Healing

I use the same traits for S/D D/

I tried D/P on swap but didn’t like it. I think it’s because I replaced con remove with 2 init/stealth. I should have replaced blind. Might try it again. Still don’t think I could live without the 2/10 though. The set just eats up so much init.

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Posted by: Babayum.9204

Babayum.9204

Problem is you need the 2 per 10 so unless you go 30 into acro it would be hard to pick up but then you don’t have those 10 points to put into crit or whatever to help your damage.

Hehe, i thought the same before i tried it out. Gain 2 Ini per 10 secs is nice and needed if you want to have 100% stealth uptime but im running without it and it works good enough. Stealth uptime is at around 80-90% if you start doing the rotation with full Ini.

I’m going with 0 / 20 / 30 / 20 / 0

VI, X
V, X, XI
VI, X

If don’t need Fleet Shadow i recommend Might on Dodge / Vigor on Healing

I use the same traits for S/D D/

I tried D/P on swap but didn’t like it. I think it’s because I replaced con remove with 2 init/stealth. I should have replaced blind. Might try it again. Still don’t think I could live without the 2/10 though. The set just eats up so much init.

Thats why it makes Assassins Reward so poweful

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Posted by: Stiv.1820

Stiv.1820

Problem is you need the 2 per 10 so unless you go 30 into acro it would be hard to pick up but then you don’t have those 10 points to put into crit or whatever to help your damage.

Hehe, i thought the same before i tried it out. Gain 2 Ini per 10 secs is nice and needed if you want to have 100% stealth uptime but im running without it and it works good enough. Stealth uptime is at around 80-90% if you start doing the rotation with full Ini.

I’m going with 0 / 20 / 30 / 20 / 0

VI, X
V, X, XI
VI, X

If don’t need Fleet Shadow i recommend Might on Dodge / Vigor on Healing

I use the same traits for S/D D/

I tried D/P on swap but didn’t like it. I think it’s because I replaced con remove with 2 init/stealth. I should have replaced blind. Might try it again. Still don’t think I could live without the 2/10 though. The set just eats up so much init.

Thats why it makes Assassins Reward so poweful

Yea I guess it’s just a balance of being init starved and not having access easy perma stealth but having some extra combat healing vs not init staved, perma stelath and no extra healing.

It would really depends on how many fights I would have lost due to not having the extra healing vs people who would get away or possible fights I would loose due to init starvation.

Not sure, just thinking about it, I think i’d still want the init. Will give it a whirl though since there is no reason not to :P