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“until we announce it, like on our website or to you guys directly, its all up in flux”

so yes you datamined a thief with a staff
but that doesnt mean it gets a staff.

rifle theif isn’t dead yet. not until they announce what it will be.

why did i post this? cause i’m tired of people saying “its definitely staff”
no proof till they announce it.

Oh come on, is this “Mesmer is not confirmed yet 2.0”?

Also one thing is the datamined skill description and another is a datamined ingame art for the traits tree, which means the staff thing is pretty much set in production.

Plus I think I’ve read the warhorn skills were known before too and the “sword skills” were just some modified dagger skills they were toying with.

We have a design showing a Thief with a staff, sorry but this is as set in stone as Mesmer was despite everyone saying “nonononono it’s not confirmed you’re wrong it’s not confirmed”.

ranger is getting staff…so no thief wont be getting it.
eles took the warhorn so i guess my initial guess that thief will get it is wrong as well.

rifle seems like a high possibility, but i am thinking more of a focus might be better.

a MAGIC wielding assasin.
A Dark Assasin.
Dark Magic.

FOCUS FOCUS FOCUS.
i want a focus offhand for elite spec thief.

EremiteAngel.9765:

ranger is getting staff…so no thief wont be getting it.

Both Elementalist and Necromancer got Shouts. Exclusivity isn’t an argument. I’ve actually never read or heard anything from Arenanet saying that 2 Elite Specialisations can’t get the same weapon.

Auesis.7301:

EremiteAngel.9765:

ranger is getting staff…so no thief wont be getting it.

Both Elementalist and Necromancer got Shouts. Exclusivity isn’t an argument. I’ve actually never read or heard anything from Arenanet saying that 2 Elite Specialisations can’t get the same weapon.

skills are one thing

i mean weapon

Auesis.7301:

EremiteAngel.9765:

ranger is getting staff…so no thief wont be getting it.

Both Elementalist and Necromancer got Shouts. Exclusivity isn’t an argument. I’ve actually never read or heard anything from Arenanet saying that 2 Elite Specialisations can’t get the same weapon.

true but Anet is too original for this. imagine giving 2 professions the same weapon for elite spec. this is too beneath anet’s originality.

so no they wont give same weapon to 2 different classes for their elite spec.
not their style.

also can you imagine, a focus offhand for thief.
immubing the power of dark magic, a thief transcends to become a Assassin Mage.

focus 4 = dark tethers grow on the ground, chill + immobilize on hit up to 5 opponents in a 380 radius

focus 5 = dark magic circle forms on the ground in a 240 radius, locking in all opponents without stability, if opponent breaks out with stability, instantly strip all stability stacks and inflict blind.

arenta.2953:

Auesis.7301:

EremiteAngel.9765:

ranger is getting staff…so no thief wont be getting it.

Both Elementalist and Necromancer got Shouts. Exclusivity isn’t an argument. I’ve actually never read or heard anything from Arenanet saying that 2 Elite Specialisations can’t get the same weapon.

skills are one thing

i mean weapon

And what’s the logic here? I’d say stealing a family line of skills 2 times would have less possibilities than 2 professions adding the same weapon (specially since each profession gives each weapon their own flavor).

For what is worth, Revenant is supposedly getting a Shield in the specialization and Mesmer got it too.

EremiteAngel.9765:

focus 4 = dark tethers grow on the ground, chill + immobilize on hit up to 5 opponents in a 380 radius

focus 5 = dark magic circle forms on the ground in a 240 radius, locking in all opponents without stability, if opponent breaks out with stability, instantly strip all stability stacks and inflict blind.

Not want to derail the thread as I don’t think we’re getting that kind of weapon (even if I think it would be cool) but… that stuff would cost the full initiative bar per use. This got me memories of Daecollo’s ultra OP ideas.

I think people just REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY want staff.
owo

… but we’ll never know if its legit or wishful thinking until anet talks about it. I would prefer rifle since it is guaranteed to broaden thief’s role in combat like longrange DPS and support.

Lokheit.7943:

EremiteAngel.9765:

focus 4 = dark tethers grow on the ground, chill + immobilize on hit up to 5 opponents in a 380 radius

focus 5 = dark magic circle forms on the ground in a 240 radius, locking in all opponents without stability, if opponent breaks out with stability, instantly strip all stability stacks and inflict blind.

Not want to derail the thread as I don’t think we’re getting that kind of weapon (even if I think it would be cool) but… that stuff would cost the full initiative bar per use. This got me memories of Daecollo’s ultra OP ideas.

i dont think its very OP.
focus 4 mayb 3 initiative per cast
focus 5 mayb 5 initiative per cast

so I could spam focus 4 maybe three to four times at the risk of my own survivability to provide more lockdown and support for the team

and then focus 5 mayb 2 spams and I put myself at risk when I drain all my initiatives.

so they won’t be spammed, but if spammed, the thief will be in danger of dying too.

They added the staff and back-drop stuff only a month ago… It may have been in flux, but if they’re going to get this thing out the door, they don’t have time for trash cans anymore. They’ve already begun the artwork on it, which is quite a bit more resource intensive than making up mock-abilities and toying around with ideas.

Sorry, friend, but at this point, it’s pretty safe to just assume you’ll get staff. They’re already behind schedule and have clearly been on the track of staff VERY recently.

This reminds me of the time they said Ele wasn’t going to get Warhorn…
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/Tempest-Warhorn-confirmed-Feedback-merged/first

ronpierce.2760:

They added the staff and back-drop stuff only a month ago… It may have been in flux, but if they’re going to get this thing out the door, they don’t have time for trash cans anymore. They’ve already begun the artwork on it, which is quite a bit more resource intensive than making up mock-abilities and toying around with ideas.

Sorry, friend, but at this point, it’s pretty safe to just assume you’ll get staff. They’re already behind schedule and have clearly been on the track of staff VERY recently.

This reminds me of the time they said Ele wasn’t going to get Warhorn…
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/Tempest-Warhorn-confirmed-Feedback-merged/first

what i want theif to get: rifle
what i doubt theif will get: staff
what i THINK thief is going to get: something related to kunai, possibly a weapon kit.

also, behind schedule?
thief was supposed to launch with rifle. there was even alot of advertised concept art with it.
datamining showed rifle skills in the beta client

but when game launched, no rifle. it was forgotten and the skills had dissapeared from client (flux for ya)

considerign concept art was made, i think schedule is more in favor of the originally planned weapon xD

Or, you know… Give us the greatsword…

btw, what’s left out of utility skill types? Like mesmer got wells, ele got shouts, guard got traps… what’s left?

Hate to think warrior might get “shadowstepping” with it’s berserker elite (that might get daggers…)

Zero Day.2594:

Or, you know… Give us the greatsword…

btw, what’s left out of utility skill types? Like mesmer got wells, ele got shouts, guard got traps… what’s left?

Hate to think warrior might get “shadowstepping” with it’s berserker elite (that might get daggers…)

Both ele and necro got shouts, so there’s no limitation on what we might get in terms of utility skills.

Maugetarr.6823:

Zero Day.2594:

Or, you know… Give us the greatsword…

btw, what’s left out of utility skill types? Like mesmer got wells, ele got shouts, guard got traps… what’s left?

Hate to think warrior might get “shadowstepping” with it’s berserker elite (that might get daggers…)

Both ele and necro got shouts, so there’s no limitation on what we might get in terms of utility skills.

Oh yeah, I forgot necro’s got shouts as well.

EremiteAngel.9765:

Auesis.7301:

EremiteAngel.9765:

ranger is getting staff…so no thief wont be getting it.

Both Elementalist and Necromancer got Shouts. Exclusivity isn’t an argument. I’ve actually never read or heard anything from Arenanet saying that 2 Elite Specialisations can’t get the same weapon.

true but Anet is too original for this. imagine giving 2 professions the same weapon for elite spec. this is too beneath anet’s originality.

so no they wont give same weapon to 2 different classes for their elite spec.
not their style.

also can you imagine, a focus offhand for thief.
immubing the power of dark magic, a thief transcends to become a Assassin Mage.

focus 4 = dark tethers grow on the ground, chill + immobilize on hit up to 5 opponents in a 380 radius

focus 5 = dark magic circle forms on the ground in a 240 radius, locking in all opponents without stability, if opponent breaks out with stability, instantly strip all stability stacks and inflict blind.

What, like they’d never give two elite specs shouts?

EremiteAngel.9765:

Auesis.7301:

EremiteAngel.9765:

ranger is getting staff…so no thief wont be getting it.

Both Elementalist and Necromancer got Shouts. Exclusivity isn’t an argument. I’ve actually never read or heard anything from Arenanet saying that 2 Elite Specialisations can’t get the same weapon.

true but Anet is too original for this. imagine giving 2 professions the same weapon for elite spec. this is too beneath anet’s originality.

so no they wont give same weapon to 2 different classes for their elite spec.
not their style.

I disagree, only one class atm can use the staff for melee applications which is the revenant. So even if the thief gets the staff I don’t believe much originality will be lost, because we don’t know what kinda animations and mechanics will be implemented with it. I believe anet has far from exhausted the mechanics of what a melee staff can do.

Also have a hard time seeing what the problem with 2 classes possible getting the same weapon for there specialization. Its not like they are going to give them the same type of playstyles (I mean playstyle in the sense of them both having melee type of attacks or range type of attacks.)

Zero Day.2594:

Maugetarr.6823:

Zero Day.2594:

Or, you know… Give us the greatsword…

btw, what’s left out of utility skill types? Like mesmer got wells, ele got shouts, guard got traps… what’s left?

Hate to think warrior might get “shadowstepping” with it’s berserker elite (that might get daggers…)

Both ele and necro got shouts, so there’s no limitation on what we might get in terms of utility skills.

Oh yeah, I forgot necro’s got shouts as well.

Well they did specify at least one elite spec will get shout which means it was already expected that at least two classes would get shouts. They didn’t say anything about weapons but I’m not believing staff until I see it, people need to stop worrying about cosmetics only.

Zero Day.2594:

Or, you know… Give us the greatsword…

I want that too
If it isn’t Greatsword, I don’t care.

Zero Day.2594:

btw, what’s left out of utility skill types? Like mesmer got wells, ele got shouts, guard got traps… what’s left?

My personal theory considering staffs puts the Spec on a martial artist line, is that we’re getting eaither Stances or Mantras.

Jana.6831:

Zero Day.2594:

Or, you know… Give us the greatsword…

I want that too
If it isn’t Greatsword, I don’t care.

Greatswords are lame. They are generic, do not suit thief, and currently 4 professions (soon to be 5) will have access. No thanks

Rifle or Staff. If staff is done with a shadowmage feel where there is a lot of shadow magic, I will love it

BFMV.3198:

Jana.6831:

Zero Day.2594:

Or, you know… Give us the greatsword…

I want that too
If it isn’t Greatsword, I don’t care.

Greatswords are lame. They are generic, do not suit thief, and currently 4 professions (soon to be 5) will have access. No thanks

Rifle or Staff. If staff is done with a shadowmage feel where there is a lot of shadow magic, I will love it

“I want GS” is a joke, at least when I say it – I don’t want anything but a working D/D thief – that’s thief for me.

Edit: And currently it’s not working (speaking of wvw) – everytime I kill someone I think “That was against all odds” – bugs, lags, nerfs – I’m stupid to still play this game.

GS theif would be interesting (and appealing yes)

though fitting…..honestly they fit the theif less than the staff…..

still prefer GS over staff

arenta.2953:

Auesis.7301:

EremiteAngel.9765:

ranger is getting staff…so no thief wont be getting it.

Both Elementalist and Necromancer got Shouts. Exclusivity isn’t an argument. I’ve actually never read or heard anything from Arenanet saying that 2 Elite Specialisations can’t get the same weapon.

skills are one thing

i mean weapon

But we also know and reason to believe that Revenant is getting shield for their Elite (glint) spec and we have already been shown that Mesmer getting shield….

So yea, 2 classes getting the same weapon for their elite wont surprise me. And as others have said, no one has stated as of yet that only “2 Elite Specializations can’t get the same weapon.”

Until something else is datamined to prove it, im 100% sure that thieves will be staff wielders for their elite spec.

who cares what weapon we get anyway, i mean lets do it the way most people want.

here u have a staff u think your a guardian now? u can be a frontline brainless idiot spamming 1? youll still get rekt and i will still use my short bow over a staff in that case..

thief needs a range weapon not a crappy staff cus i assume we will not get ranged spells like a ELE if we would get a staff

tho like i said i dont really need a new weapon on thief rather see balance happening ingame

I think staffs for thieves are all but confirmed. Didn’t we see a datamined art for the specialization that looked like a ninja? I’d rather they got the rifle, but that’s not happening yet.

Seemed logic to me thieves would get the mace.

Staff thief would kill my motivation. In every game i play, the least possible character for me is a staff wielding melee…

I don’t get it why people want this so bad…

Tyr.6097:

Staff thief would kill my motivation. In every game i play, the least possible character for me is a staff wielding melee…

I don’t get it why people want this so bad…

Could be that its actually, you know… A thing? More than spell casting (obviously) rofl… There are entire fighting styles in real life based on using a bo-staff… I’d imagine more than axes and giant hammers…

muscarine.5136:

Seemed logic to me thieves would get the mace.

logically?
they’d get something sharp and painful. a spear is possible.

but usually something easily hidden.

logically necro needs a torch xD

idk why you are all so hyped… it will be garbage anyway by the tendency class design been going so far

Well if nothing’s confirmed until its release, I vote for landspears!

I think it’s confirmed that we won’t get the underwater weapons on land :o

Also, I don’t understand people that want the Rifle weapon. I hardly see how a new ranged weapon will help the thief, especially one that looks like it’s mostly single target focused. Do people really want something they can use to weakly autoattack stuff at 1200 range? That will help how? In WvW zerg fights?

There’s a reason rifle is the less used weapon : it’s cause it has no style nor class ! Engineer at least made something useful out of it by turning it into a shotgun :p

Cynz.9437:

idk why you are all so hyped… it will be garbage anyway by the tendency class design been going so far

Necro’s Reaper is pretty epic

stof.9341:

I think it’s confirmed that we won’t get the underwater weapons on land :o

Also, I don’t understand people that want the Rifle weapon. I hardly see how a new ranged weapon will help the thief, especially one that looks like it’s mostly single target focused. Do people really want something they can use to weakly autoattack stuff at 1200 range? That will help how? In WvW zerg fights?

There’s a reason rifle is the less used weapon : it’s cause it has no style nor class ! Engineer at least made something useful out of it by turning it into a shotgun :p

Yeah, bad joke is bad. I wouldn’t mind rifle if it got most of its damage from a sustained auto attack that pierced and had decent utility at mid range.

What I mean is a 1.0 multiplier on autos at 0-600 range and then a ~0.8 multiplier from 600-1200 with a 1 second shot to shot time (including pre/post cast). The 2-5 skills are up for debate, but the sustained damage should come from something not requiring initiative (think of a better P/P set).

stof.9341:

I think it’s confirmed that we won’t get the underwater weapons on land :o

Also, I don’t understand people that want the Rifle weapon. I hardly see how a new ranged weapon will help the thief, especially one that looks like it’s mostly single target focused. Do people really want something they can use to weakly autoattack stuff at 1200 range? That will help how? In WvW zerg fights?

There’s a reason rifle is the less used weapon : it’s cause it has no style nor class ! Engineer at least made something useful out of it by turning it into a shotgun :p

That’s kind of why I’d like the rifle on the thief or ranger, actually. To finally have someone who can do something cool with it, as neither the warrior nor the engineer is that impressive with the rifle. Also, to have a sniper archetype, since warrior uses it more like an assault rifle and the engineer like a gadget-riddled shotgun.

Just something to note – just 2 months ago Sword skills were datamined for the Tempest. If the thief elite specialization is further out than anticipated, it may or may not still get staff.

Viking Jorun.5413:

Just something to note – just 2 months ago Sword skills were datamined for the Tempest. If the thief elite specialization is further out than anticipated, it may or may not still get staff.

The ascended ninja staff and the matching thief specialization back drop was added to the game fields the same day as the Ascended Warhorn and staff, which is what caused us to realize tempest would get Warhorn. This was only 1 month ago.

Viking Jorun.5413:

Just something to note – just 2 months ago Sword skills were datamined for the Tempest. If the thief elite specialization is further out than anticipated, it may or may not still get staff.

inb4 theif gets a focus for a scepter and a focus for a weapon and everyone goes “what?!”

arenta.2953:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAbrXuZGIts

0:57

“until we announce it, like on our website or to you guys directly, its all up in flux”

so yes you datamined a thief with a staff
but that doesnt mean it gets a staff.

rifle theif isn’t dead yet. not until they announce what it will be.

why did i post this? cause i’m tired of people saying “its definitely staff”
no proof till they announce it.

It’s definitely staff Kappa

Maugetarr.6823:

Well if nothing’s confirmed until its release, I vote for landspears!

Plot twist:

We get 1200 range land harpoon guns.

Neither a staff/spear nor a rifle.

Plot twist nr 2:

We get a rifle, but they forgot the bullets, so we use it as a club / staff.

They also said that Rev is the first profession that uses staff as melee. While not saying thief won’t get it I am rather sceptic. What purpose would staff have? What would be the spec’s name ? Waht sort of U-skills would it get?

Can we have them both? more Elite Specialization more eSport.

though all i want is this.

stof.9341:

I think it’s confirmed that we won’t get the underwater weapons on land :o

Also, I don’t understand people that want the Rifle weapon. I hardly see how a new ranged weapon will help the thief, especially one that looks like it’s mostly single target focused. Do people really want something they can use to weakly autoattack stuff at 1200 range? That will help how? In WvW zerg fights?

There’s a reason rifle is the less used weapon : it’s cause it has no style nor class ! Engineer at least made something useful out of it by turning it into a shotgun :p

2000 range sniper/sharpshooter/marksman…YEAAAH! One can dream

stof.9341:

There’s a reason rifle is the less used weapon : it’s cause it has no style nor class ! Engineer at least made something useful out of it by turning it into a shotgun :p

That’s a highly subjective view about “style”. Thiefs lacking in the long range department.

Actually excited about the idea of playing a melee staff theif

I wouldn’t if Anet gives us Axes.

Cmon guys let’s not be the next generation of but hurt Ele’s who wanted sword. Let’s wait and see.

And remember data mining is just that: data. How it is interpreted and implemented (if ever) is at our own risk.

Thief will get Greatsword and can Backstab for 12k – 15k ish CONFIRMED!

Coloxeus.3480:

Thief will get Greatsword and can Backstab for 12k – 15k ish CONFIRMED!

Stealth skill – Huge Backstab: instantly kill your target. Becomes Huge Backsweep if you are shorter than your target, in which case cut off their legs, permanently removing their ability to move.