Steal-Crazy+Stealth.Who do I look upto?
It doesn’t look consistent enough, apart from the steal spam, which happens every 19.75 secs, what do you do?
It looks like a backstab build that doesn’t have enough power or movement to support it.
You speced steal for what reason?
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(10.0.30.0.30)
Who am I supposed to be watching who has a similar build? :
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQRAoa6alUmiP3ey3E/5EB3Dmi0m69Asj1saFoJA-T4Ag0CmIKSVkrITRyisFNKYZxGjTBzLeEAD/p+P/p… Steal spamming and stealth into backstabs…
plz check my build and suggest maybe someone I can talk to/look at to tweak my own build and ask advice.Thanks for Your Help,
RogueTigeR
If you go 30 into trickery instead of critical strikes on a power based build, you aren’t gonna be able to do anything. Steal isn’t very important on a D/P build because you have shadowshot. If you had 30 in CS your damage would be way, way higher and you could have either hidden killer or executioner trait further boosting it.
EVERY STEAL=+/- HP
With Mug (III) in the D.A. trait line, I do gain a little extra power and condi duration as well as every time I steal, which is basically ever 19 seconds, it adds 1300ish-low 1800’s (avg ~1400 vs heavy and ~1650 vs light)depending on toughness (numbers based on HoTM heavy and light target golems); as well as an immediate heal for 2235 + 336-672 (for a total of 2571-2907 HP gain) from grandmaster Shadow’s Rejuvenation (XI) gain HP while in stealth trait from S.A. trait line.
MORE (BURST) DMG PLZ!
In addition to the traits which give and take HP from me and foe, there is the immediate shadowstep into melee range+stealth, giving yet another opportunity for a backstab, which through testing done on the light and heavy target golems can still hit anywhere between 4300+ – 4800+ (avg ~2960 vs heavy and ~3600 vs light)
BREAKING DOWN THE TREE, leaf by leaf
As far as the Trickery trait line itself:
-A- Every steal (19sec) = +3 initiative [Kleptomaniac]
-B- +5% Dmg from all attacks when hitting from behind or the side (great for backstabs)[Flanking Strikes]
-C- +3 to maximum initiative capacity [Preparedness]
-D- Every steal (19sec) = 15 sec vigor to all nearby allies (gotta love dodging)
AND
—> Every steal (19sec)= -2 boons from stolen target, + the (-)’d boons to all nearby allies [Bountiful Theft]
-E- +1% Dmg per initiative held [Lead Attacks]
-F- Every steal (19sec) = 1sec daze on target AND (-)20% cooldown time for steal
[Sleight of Hand]
A: + Dmg: More opportunities to do dmg using stronger skills than weapon 1
() Also works in unison for added dmg with -E-
B: + Dmg: Pretty obvious
C: + Dmg: Bigger “bursts” of damage combos
() Also works in unison for even higher added dmg with -E-
D: + Survivability of team: dodging + stripping boons off
() + Dmg: Stripping defensive boons off target + Acquiring offensive boons for team
() “Confused”/“Trickery”: “how are they dodging this much?” “WTF, whered my boons go?”
E: + Dmg: obvious
F: + Survivability: Prevent/interrupt high damage incoming attacks
() + Dmg: Prevent/interrupt that perfectly timed heal and works in unison for even higher added dmg with -ABCDE- with a faster cooldown
() “Confused”/“Trickery”: “WHY AM I NOT HEALING??” “ok… time… to… K.I.L…..why did my skill not go off??”
(Dmg) Traits: ABCDEF (Survivability) Traits: DF (+Confused/Trickery):DF
By choosing 30 in Trickery, every single trait skill adds, some in a very “uniquely tricky” way, more damage.
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It is at heart and core a burst DPS build. But the “tricky” part is…. it is played out:
Burst. Hide and run from danger. Get in close. Burst. Burst. Hide and run from danger. Get in close. Burst. REPEAT.
*There is more..a lot more of my reasoning for this tricky stealth build… but I will cut my post a little (LOT!) shorter b/c probably only interesting to me :P . But note that I have not even mentioned the 2nd function of the “steal”: stolen skills, have not mentioned stealthing away from danger after a burst, have not mentioned the healing capabilities of stealthing so incredibly often, and have not mentioned anything about weapon choice: blind spamming, vulnerability setup, the ability to use a spamable weapon skill that keeps you on the target, as well as keep the target and nearby foe’s off of you.
As the other posters have pointed out, you would gain much more by putting points into Critical Strikes instead of Trickery. But if you really want to run those traits, you might consider this:
I run 10/0/30/0/30 P/D + SB conditions with the new Perplexity Runes. I get all the nifty things you get from stealing, except I also apply confusion when I use it to interrupt. I also get more out of the constant poison from stealing. For instance, let’s pretend I interrupt someone’s heal with my F1. Then I Cloak and Dagger while they’re dazed, dodge for some Caltrops and pop out of stealth for some more bleeds just before their heal comes back. So let’s tally up what they have to deal with before they get a chance to heal:
- 5 Confusion stacks
- 15 seconds of Poison
- 6-10 stacks of Bleed (ignoring what I’ve already applied before stealing)
- Blind for 7 1/2 seconds
- Cripple for 4 to 16 seconds (if they stand still in Caltrops)
- Vulnerability for 10 seconds, applied whenever I crit
With Skale Venom, you could also apply 3 stacks of Torment and some more Vulnerability, but I don’t like the long cooldown without traiting venoms. If I really want Torment, I can Shadow Strike. All of the above can be applied in under 5 seconds.
Stealing can be awesome. You just have to make use of all the affects you trigger by stealing. But in a Backstab build, you’re giving up way too much damage for a relatively small gain.
Anyway, here’s my build if you’re curious (skill builder doesn’t have Perplexity Runes yet): http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYQQNAqYVlUmiu3cS6E+5EB3Dnm0m694rj1saFwJA-j0xAINioRaBIVZIapwioxqZwUpER1e+ioVLFAErBA-w