Stealth Tank Thief (d/d and sb) - exotic

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Posted by: LionChain.7694

LionChain.7694

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fZQQNAoYVlsMXmqe+OX+scy7Z4E9z/5E0EC3lSNTrAdn8YTA-TRyEABmovpFVemb/BSVCujyvgPlCpoOwDPpAAM/RKAzEGB-e

Before I begin, I want to state that I’m NOT claiming this to be an ‘original’ build. I’m sure someone else at some point came up with an idea for a similar build such as this. I’m just sharing this build because this is my variation on it and I wanted to see if anyone had any feedback to help improve it. With that said, let’s get into it!

So this is a thief build I’ve been working on. It focuses on stealthing, healing and has a secondary focus on initiative regain (so you can use more weapon skills and heal faster). It also focuses on getting the most out of the ‘steal’ profession skill. The armor on this build is pretty decent (a little over 2900), so it provides good protection. Using Smoke Screen and Cluster Bomb together is a potent combo – it grants stealth, healing, deals decent damage, and also grants might.

Pros – a lot of healing and stealthing, this build really takes advantage of the ‘steal’ profession skill, dodging and stealthing as well (you gain might every time you stealth), you also gain swiftness and might when you dodge, and when your endurance is not full, you deal extra damage. And of course, this build has decent armor and vitality (which is good, since the thief is on the lower end of the base health pool). The build is tanky, but it still has 52% crit chance, 171% ferocity and 1783 power, which is further improved by the might stacking of stealthing, weapon swaps and dodging.

Cons for this build/profession – the deception skills that grant stealth are not available for underwater combat, so I had to opt for skills that evade and grant initiative regeneration. This made the build incredibly weaker underwater. Overall, I found the utility skills available to thieves underwater to be lackluster. So, you know, try to avoid underwater combat as much as possible, especially if you’re up against a guardian or ranger, both of which have awesome underwater combat abilities. This build is pretty selfish as it doesn’t have a lot of ally support. If you want, you can switch out a trait for Shadow Protector so you grant allies regeneration when you stealth them using Shadow Refuge.

Notes: Try to stagger between your utility deception skills, your weapon skills and your dodges so you don’t get caught between cooldowns

This build – this profession, really – requires you to be quick on your keyboard. Try not to overthink things; this will only slow you down, which is something the thief can’t afford. Don’t worry if you can’t get a hang of this build/profession right away. Personally, it’s one of the more challenging professions for me to play. And even though I’m better at it than I was before, I still have a long way to go. Also be careful on initiative use, as always with this profession. The stealthing grants you extra initiative regen (2 each time you stealth), but still be cautious.

Speaking of stealthing, make sure you wait until the last possible moment to use Backstab (which you should always open with after you go into stealth…this should be easy since you move 50% faster while in stealth), seeing as how each second of stealth grants you 327 healing. It also gives you breathing room to regain initiative.

If you’re really in a jam, go into stealth and retreat…the Fleet Shadow trait enables you to move 50% faster, as stated before, so running away should be easy for you. If you need to put further distance between you and an enemy, you can always use the SB to shadowstep away.

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Posted by: zitounae.4803

zitounae.4803

How do you deal with dot pressure?

I ran into a VERY strong staff Elem earlier on live and was excited to see it -time4nerf-

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Posted by: Turamarth.3248

Turamarth.3248

What is the purpose of this build?
It lacks condi removal and the damage seems to be rather low in my opinion.

“It also focuses on getting the most out of the ‘steal’ profession skill.”
Mug and Hidden Thief isn’t the most one can get. 6 points in Trickery are necessary if you want to get the most out of steal.

Brandar – Kodash [DE]
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Posted by: Macovan.3650

Macovan.3650

What is this build for? WvW? sPvP? PvE?
I don’t do much PvE and sPvP, but from the WvW perspective, this build seems lackluster. Conditions are a current meta in WvW roaming, and having a fast, reliable condi removal is the must. Your only condition removal is HiS which is usually not enough. Also, 1783 power and 171% crit damage is really low. You are going to hit like a wet noodle. I also feel, running 6 points into crit strikes (for Hidden Killer) is almost always necessary for dagger main hand. High toughness is only good against big hits, and your HP is still relatively low (14k), so the build is not really that tanky.
Even full Soldier thief build will have better survivability and damage output than your build. It isn’t the best build by any means, but as an example you can take something like this http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fZQQNAoYVlsMXmKd+O35scy7Z4E9z/5E7Ex2FBTcfeV2VOA-TRCBwA12f4oyvcq/A5BAA4UAoSfAjjAQCzfTUCSKA9UGB-e

And remember, a good player will do decent even with a terrible build, but only while using a good build, he will truly shine.

Macovan – 80 Thief
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Posted by: DeceiverX.8361

DeceiverX.8361

Just from a mathematical perspective, you’re better off using an offensive trait setup with critical strikes and Shadow arts/condi rmeoval in PTV than this in berserker/knights, as it’ll provide you better everything.

Sorry to burst your bubble :\