Guild Wars 2

Hi before every thief here start flaming me and saying im not skilled at the game whatever yes im not best thief in EU ask sindrener but im above average

My name is Shepstar obviously i played in ESL / AG in past and i have round 2k hours on thief and played long time before hot like 2014/2015 so i have some claim that i got right talk about thief

i understand lot of nerfs and buffs to given to thief which lot of them make lot of sense but i can understand Stealth delay attack on shortbow or ranges weapons sets because they are very spamable which leads to some very interesting results like getting 3x 2secs of immobilise and lot bleed stacks which seems very strong but i don’t understand on melee weapons because you only get one attack because it revealed straight away not like range weapons where you can get 3 projectiles off before getting revealed on SB which can be combo with smoke or poison field because i feel like it encourage random dodge / preemptive dodging which i don’t mind because it does give counter play to stealth skills if you dodge luckily or good but it not enjoyable because it 1/4 cast time with 1 cd which is like 1 1/4 sec cd so you might as well spam other skill d/p 3 or 4 when someone makes your stealth backstab useless by whatever means i think it just very clunky like i felt with SB 1 when someone was blinking everywhere i was stuck there in stealth not able to do anything because of targeting / SB cd but i feel like it should be on range weapons alone but i guess it whatever i always hit my BS anyway but i found cool trick for you thieves which hate it if you time your cancel skill button or sheath weapon just before BS you can put on lower cd like 1 sec instead 1 1/4 sec so it does not feel an eternity as well they don’t get miss or evade message but your guys opinion does matter because thief side of gw2 is not looking that great because segregation in gw2 right now and not lot of people voices are not heard on matter of class changes just because they don’t want post feedback/opinions on forum which affects everyone good or worse

best regards
shepstar

It was a crap nerf Anet did without any reasoning behind it. That’s the short and sweet and most Thieves will agree, now it places more emphasis on how most thief builds require more skill to use compared to all the other classes.

@BlaqueFyre.5678

i was not say it crap nerf but very questionable change even with thief coming back in to meta after hot being not so good to thief with game changes in pvp / wvw but did decent in pve now thieves making comeback which it quite a refreshing sight to see after all so much flame for thief in pvp during 1st season of pvp league to point i didn’t see another thief in high elo unless it was ESL or GVG-related player or thieves main you know for example sindrener but yeah thieves always being about that skill cap with being a mechanical player to adept on-spot headshot heals/skill cast times which i used to do headshot before it was cool lmao or DD came out but yeah lot builds encourage certain play styles which is very good and with hot as well encourage using unused skills like headshot i think very unused only few thieves knows how to use headshot but at same time i was bit annoy when thieves headshot spam and all you need to do wait for them run out of init then kill em

So it’s cool that thieves use headshot but spamming it is uncool although you did it first and headshot means diversity.

What has this got to do with the stealth cooldown?

ETA: Blaque is right and you’re right: This was an unnecessary nerf and the devs didn’t think too much about it, just like the reveal skills.
Kudos to anet for fixing some combat bugs in the aftermath buuut they really should take combat more seriously as I bet at least a third of all GW2 players play pvp or wvw – catering only PvE players is a quick fix.
You’re right with most thieves not venting their frustration on the forums. So what happened was that a bunch more people quit this game.

@Jana.6831

im just talking about random things but yeah if you read above my reply for bit about stealth cooldown

It sounds a bit random, to be honest: all we get is that you don’t like that cooldown – nearly no one does.
And you guys don’t want me to undust my offhand pistol, otherwise you wouldn’t even need to discuss who’s the best thief EU :P

@Jana.6831

lmao yeah by the tone of my text i don’t know i feel like cunky mechanic that somewhat pointless because thief has notorious rep of having first strikes even if you put in mechanic which stops that like i just feel not worth having in because it unnecessary and quite random change which i guess because you can find ways round this and encourages randoms dodges which in my book is bad thing to do but whatever i know we got like 9 dodges but all it takes one combo or two if you are not careful

The game really became brainless. I’m dodging rather randomly myself because I’m a D/D thief and don’t always see what my enemy does, so I have to go by my gut.
The problem with the cooldown is that if I’m playing against a necro, for example, and he specced for chill, then there’s nothing smart I can do to avoid the cooldown.
So it might have made sense before HoT – in a fluid bug free game, which we don’t have. I’m basically punished twice, by my own mistakes and by the passives of the other classes. And that’s something anet should know before doing stuff like this – but they obviously didn’t.
I recently duelled a buddy of mine – he on his elites (but not bunker), me on vanilla power D/D (in wvw) – and he didn’t win a single fight. Back in the day I really sat cheering in front of the computer whenever I saw a necro dodge and I guess the same will apply to all players once this game isn’t that braindead anymore.
They will have to nerf thief evades though.
In the end best would be to just remove Hot and call it a day. But please leave me the gliders and my “vanilla” revenant – he’s pretty.

@Jana.6831

the game for me became more hollow like i don’t know if it was just HOT or people becoming bored of the game but lot of changes to game was more of fixing or balancing kappa but i feel like they don’t know how to spice up the game without finding middle ground between community instead trys to appeal to everyone at same time which does not work in game but when release things they don’t have public beta test server or anything unless it big change or DLC like HOT so it more like feedback but damage is already done like with new maps where there was only desert maps which new / some old player found good but old maps have lot of good spots for new/old player that didn’t or did play old map would not get that experience again which kind of sad really if you think about it

just remember guys it could of been worse anet could of double cast time of backstab over putting a 1 second CD on it.

this is getting old, pretty fast! is complete b.s. can they at least buff the damage

first they nerf the crap out of warrior back when it was my main and so i switch, and now this.