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Posted by: Arikyali.5804

Arikyali.5804

I’m confused if this was even possible. I was on my thief in WvW with a small group of people. While we were trying to cap a supply camp, an enemy zerg rushed in, so I threw down shadow refuge the moment I saw them. A few of the ranged attacks hit me (not enough to be lethal), but I remained stealth. I was waiting to flee once I got the max timer for stealth, but it was as if the zerg was able to see me while I was hidden, target me, and get me downed. Unless there was something off with my graphics I’m pretty sure I was still stealthed when I got downed. Even if shadow refuge’s stealth was gone (does it go away if you get downed?) I cast smoke bomb by habit. But…I got stomped.

Did they just rush up to my refuge and spam enough aoe that it could be mistaken for getting a target on me? Is it even possible to get targeted for a stomp while stealthed? It’s never happened to me before. Someone suggested a ranger might have unstealthed me, but…I’m pretty sure I did not lose my stealth at any point at that time. At no point did I attack. I’ve been in enough small fights where I cast refuge and the person just loses me. Even in the middle of zerg fights I’ll cast stealth, wait a bit, then move.

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Posted by: Peow peow.2189

Peow peow.2189

most liekly u died from the aoe to down you , or they had a stealth disruptor trap. Its a wvw trap that cancels stealth and reveals you.

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Posted by: knbBlackTemplar.3059

knbBlackTemplar.3059

most liekly u died from the aoe to down you , or they had a stealth disruptor trap. Its a wvw trap that cancels stealth and reveals you.

Came to say this. Stealth Disruptor thing.

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Posted by: Karolis.4261

Karolis.4261

Let me explain you how it works. Shadow refuge+thief+angry zerg that has seen your refuge on top of it = dead thief. And if you are not aware yet, most if not all gw2 attacks dont require target.

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Posted by: Gwalchgwn.1659

Gwalchgwn.1659

Let me explain you how it works. Shadow refuge+thief+angry zerg that has seen your refuge on top of it = dead thief. And if you are not aware yet, most if not all gw2 attacks dont require target.

He knew that part, read his last line first paragraph: But… I got stomped

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Posted by: Arikyali.5804

Arikyali.5804

He knew that part, read his last line first paragraph: But… I got stomped

You mean ‘she’.

The zerg was still a moderately safe distance away. If they were closer, I’d just try to flee without risking waiting for refuge, cross my fingers and hope I get away. The head of the zerg just sorta…leaped for me and I got immobilized. (Or stunned. I dunno, I just couldn’t move)

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Posted by: Sifu.6527

Sifu.6527

He knew that part, read his last line first paragraph: But… I got stomped

You mean ‘she’.

The zerg was still a moderately safe distance away. If they were closer, I’d just try to flee without risking waiting for refuge, cross my fingers and hope I get away. The head of the zerg just sorta…leaped for me and I got immobilized. (Or stunned. I dunno, I just couldn’t move)

I think this is what happened.

You used Shadow Refuge but you got downed due to random attacks and AOEs. As a habit, you probably used number 2 to teleport but with Shadow Refuge still being up, you got revealed. Since you’re down, you cant see if you have the debuff or not.

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Posted by: Arikyali.5804

Arikyali.5804

I think this is what happened.

You used Shadow Refuge but you got downed due to random attacks and AOEs. As a habit, you probably used number 2 to teleport but with Shadow Refuge still being up, you got revealed. Since you’re down, you cant see if you have the debuff or not.

I do remember trying to teleport out of the aoe and toward an ally, but I was killed before I was able to do so.

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Posted by: Karolis.4261

Karolis.4261

Let me explain you how it works. Shadow refuge+thief+angry zerg that has seen your refuge on top of it = dead thief. And if you are not aware yet, most if not all gw2 attacks dont require target.

He knew that part, read his last line first paragraph: But… I got stomped

Stop picking words. There is no way that he/she was killed by a zerg and then STOMPED. Zerg button mashing is faster then stomp animation.

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Posted by: Gwalchgwn.1659

Gwalchgwn.1659

Let me explain you how it works. Shadow refuge+thief+angry zerg that has seen your refuge on top of it = dead thief. And if you are not aware yet, most if not all gw2 attacks dont require target.

He knew that part, read his last line first paragraph: But… I got stomped

Stop picking words. There is no way that he/she was killed by a zerg and then STOMPED. Zerg button mashing is faster then stomp animation.

It’s general that ppl look for the answers that solve the OP’s case.
While in general it’s easier to assume that she got zerg smashed rather than stomped, it doesn’t change the fact that we should find a reason how she got stomped.
Also, in her OP she already showed awareness of AoE being untargetted. She was asking if there were aoe that, after being cast, caused you to be targetted (which the answer to is “no” btw)

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Posted by: Karolis.4261

Karolis.4261

Let me explain you how it works. Shadow refuge+thief+angry zerg that has seen your refuge on top of it = dead thief. And if you are not aware yet, most if not all gw2 attacks dont require target.

He knew that part, read his last line first paragraph: But… I got stomped

Stop picking words. There is no way that he/she was killed by a zerg and then STOMPED. Zerg button mashing is faster then stomp animation.

It’s general that ppl look for the answers that solve the OP’s case.
While in general it’s easier to assume that she got zerg smashed rather than stomped, it doesn’t change the fact that we should find a reason how she got stomped.
Also, in her OP she already showed awareness of AoE being untargetted. She was asking if there were aoe that, after being cast, caused you to be targetted (which the answer to is “no” btw)

Its common sense that you cant be targeted by any means when you are in stealth. And only possible way to be unstealthed in that situation was to leave refuge area in first 4 seconds or someone droped a stealth trap on top of her.

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Posted by: Flubble.8093

Flubble.8093

sometimes i seen an enemy stealth and they have a big white ring around them on the floor that moves with them, i don’t know what causes that to happen but it shows where they are

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Posted by: Gwalchgwn.1659

Gwalchgwn.1659

Let me explain you how it works. Shadow refuge+thief+angry zerg that has seen your refuge on top of it = dead thief. And if you are not aware yet, most if not all gw2 attacks dont require target.

He knew that part, read his last line first paragraph: But… I got stomped

Stop picking words. There is no way that he/she was killed by a zerg and then STOMPED. Zerg button mashing is faster then stomp animation.

It’s general that ppl look for the answers that solve the OP’s case.
While in general it’s easier to assume that she got zerg smashed rather than stomped, it doesn’t change the fact that we should find a reason how she got stomped.
Also, in her OP she already showed awareness of AoE being untargetted. She was asking if there were aoe that, after being cast, caused you to be targetted (which the answer to is “no” btw)

Its common sense that you cant be targeted by any means when you are in stealth. And only possible way to be unstealthed in that situation was to leave refuge area in first 4 seconds or someone droped a stealth trap on top of her.

Idd, I agree with you now

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Posted by: Master of Timespace.2548

Master of Timespace.2548

Perhaps you used the smoke bomb too early. That is, someone started channeling stomp, you use smoke bomb, smoke bomb stealth wears off, and then the stomp finishes.

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Posted by: Arikyali.5804

Arikyali.5804

Well, my initial concern was to see if I had come across some unfortunate stealth glitch, but since other thieves haven’t encountered this, then I’m glad it’s likely not.

Perhaps you used the smoke bomb too early. That is, someone started channeling stomp, you use smoke bomb, smoke bomb stealth wears off, and then the stomp finishes.

Perhaps that was it. I usually try to spam 1 on the lowest enemy health in an attempt to rally, so maybe by habit I accidentally hit the key, and cancelled my stealth. It was just so chaotic, I can’t recall every second of detail.

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Posted by: Redscope.6215

Redscope.6215

I’ve had to say this multiple times to multiple thieves. Stealth is not damage immunity.

If someone attacks in your area, even if they don’t have a target, and you’re in the way, you’ll get hit. Not just AoE. Anything. Personally, I love using Eviscerate and jumping into the refuge to down the thief sitting in it. I don’t have him targeted, but he’s still there and it still hits him.

As for stomping, if they start casting it and you go stealth but you don’t move far enough away, yeah you get stomped.

Just remember:
Stealth != Immune

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

Travlane.5948

perma stealth gives 4 VERY large gifts to the opponent. perma stealth actually HURTS the user. most are too simple to understand this!