Guild Wars 2

I for one don’t use stealth a lot, I mainly use it for stealth skills; my playstyle revolves around evasiveness and mobility so I thought what if they turned stealth into shadow form?
Works similarly (ends on attack, enables stealth skills), except that when in Shadow Form we are semi-visible (transparent like we see it) but evade all melee/ranged attacks and gain stability during it.
Mobs still wouldn’t see a shadowed character so we could continue to stealth our friends in dungeons etc.

The reason people complain about Thief is most MMO gamers can’t play without target locking, and they will never stop crying until they can see/target us.
This way we get (imo) a better tool than stealth which complies with evasive playstyle, and at the same time we get rid of the haters.

“but evade all melee/ranged attacks and gain stability during it.”
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Stealthing every 3 sec
= OP

Too tired to write alternative comment right now sry, just wanted to say the current idea isn’t good. I’ll try again tomorrow.

No… This has been discussed and it’s not a viable option for pvp. Think about it. A thief can CnD (go stealth) multiple times. On top of that, add blinding powder and shadow refuge. So by your idea of (evade all melee/ranged attacks and gain stability), we would be completely untouchable if we just maintained stealth. In fact you could go stand in the middle of the biggest zerg and they could see you in “shadow form”, but couldn’t touch you while you dance around them and occasionally get off a CnD. The cries would really start to pour in then. It’s just not a good idea and completely unrealistic. Sorry to burst your bubble on it. Maybe if you used stealth you would understand that the mechanics behind it are fine. Culling is the issue people are crying about.

Red Falcon.8257:

I for one don’t use stealth a lot, I mainly use it for stealth skills; .

See this wasn’t a good way to start at all. Who doesn’t use stealth for stealth skills?

D/D = Backstab
P/P= Sneak attack (no ini cost) followed by Unload
S/D = Daze
D/P= Backstab
SB= Surprise shot (immobilize)
S/P = daze
p/d = sneak attack

Who doesn’t use the stealth skills as a thief they are like the best skills pretty much.

its a balance thing I havent pvp’d at all but i can say i have a lower level guardian that can go toe to toe with mobs 5 levels higher than he, if i where to do that with my thief i would get smushed. Colin in a live video on mmorpg the other day said they are rolling out a temp fix for culling, then they are going to put in a perm fix.

Peccavi.2978:

its a balance thing I havent pvp’d at all but i can say i have a lower level guardian that can go toe to toe with mobs 5 levels higher than he, if i where to do that with my thief i would get smushed. Colin in a live video on mmorpg the other day said they are rolling out a temp fix for culling, then they are going to put in a perm fix.

The game won’t be balanced at those lower levels. You haven’t unlocked the full potential of either char at lower levels to give a fair comparison. Wonder what the ETA is on the culling fix?

well flame and frost comes out in 5 days, maybe then?

I swear people moan to simply moan, I always rolled main class scout type archetype usually focusing on the thief/assassin type until they broke stun spec mace rogues from wow, yea a fair while ago

I have found my love again in GW2.

In saying this wow rogues start in stealth at least you get to see usually where the thief comes from in GW2, A lot of the cases in games these days is simply a L2P issue or knowing your enemy in fact which of course can be used in RL. L2P people don’t be ignorant and cry about someone you don’t know 100% about, do your research. A good example is thieves in LOTR, if you stun them they got some health back well did at the time, don’t know about now but like i said do your research before crying A lot of the QQ’ing is usually about pvp in games and in turn it usually breaks games mainly because devs listen to the majority, and sorry to say the majority of gamers shouldn’t be gamers. Sorry but it’s true, common sense is rare. People expect to win win win easily. it’s a game sure but should it be easy?

Just the other day I saw a warrior qq about the thief burst which it turn was explained as the warrior had used frenzy kitten but then a thief on the boards argued saying how could he have suddenly stolen then backstabbed? He would’ve had to Cnd first. If you look at your own class traits there is a way to stealth steal without the need to cnd, this is what i mean by knowing your class….. People cry too much, it’s a game enjoy it, it’s not real like TV

I miss Lineage 2 and Vanilla Wow, Games with a challenge……. Please devs fix stuff that NEEDS fixing and stick to your guns, Overall you have done amazingly well with the breath of fresh air game, don’t let cry baby PVPers break the rest of the game like what happens to the majority of games

And sorry for my rant and it also isn’t just for this topic of course, it involves the game as a whole. If any class needs to be qq’d about it’s warriors. EASY MODE it’s surely Anets “wow warlocks” lol. If you know the hidden meaning in that you know what I’m on about.

Warriors get it all

oZii.2864:

See this wasn’t a good way to start at all. Who doesn’t use stealth for stealth skills?

D/D = Backstab
P/P= Sneak attack (no ini cost) followed by Unload
S/D = Daze
D/P= Backstab
SB= Surprise shot (immobilize)
S/P = daze
p/d = sneak attack

Who doesn’t use the stealth skills as a thief they are like the best skills pretty much.

You got it wrong, I use stealth only to use stealth skills not as a fundament of my playstyle.

You will find by experience that advanced players do not fall for stealth-cheesing, but you will need to rely on evasiveness and mobility to beat them (which is the real strength of the Thief, but again you’ll also realize this when playing against better opponents).

To recap, I don’t mind some changes to stealth in PvP if we get more evasiveness/mobility in return. It’d just be a buff for me.

Red Falcon.8257:

You got it wrong, I use stealth only to use stealth skills not as a fundament of my playstyle.

You will find by experience that advanced players do not fall for stealth-cheesing, but you will need to rely on evasiveness and mobility to beat them (which is the real strength of the Thief, but again you’ll also realize this when playing against better opponents).

To recap, I don’t mind some changes to stealth in PvP if we get more evasiveness/mobility in return. It’d just be a buff for me.[/quote]

I see you want to be on some pedestal as you feel you are different but that still doesn’t make sense that you only use stealth for steath skills. Who doesn’t do that?

Im asking seriously now. Yea I get the evasiveness and the mobility part that is pretty obvious to thieves especially if you go 15 into acro at all. Saying you only use stealth for stealth skills if you said I don’t use stealth skills when I am in stealth and use the other skills that would be different. Like you go in stealth and use cluster bomb or go in stealth and use flanking strike but everyone that plays thief uses stealth skills when they are in stealth if your not using them then your kind of gimping yourself.

Maybe you don’t use hide in shadow, blinding powder, or shadow refuge?