Guild Wars 2

Hey all, I have recently started a thiefy (level 36 as of this post), with the resolve to never use stealth in anything outside of select PvE situations (i.e. when I really want that skillpoint but I can’t be bothered to kill the monsters before communing).
Do any of you guys have some moderately good builds for this?

I’m currently running s/p/p/p berserker gear (It’s what I’m used to on an ele) with withdraw, shadowstep, signet of shadows, caltrops, and daggerstorm. I’m using eagle runes as well. My traits are all over the place, though.
Thanks for any help outside of “use stealth”.

The only steathless weapons are p/p, s/p and sb which is pretty limited. S/d had CnD but honestly when I played the spec I’d rarly ever stealth typically there acrobatic builds using evades instead.

For traits if your not gonna use stealth in any way than you’re only condi cleanse or defense is gonna be in acro line and it will be very limited in the condi cleanses which is gonna be your biggest draw back not using stealth. We are very strong out of stealth in terms of dmg and and with evades staying alive but condi will tear you apart.

All that said you can definitely run a stealthless build and have it work, but your gonna have to really be careful with condi managment. Hope this helps need any thing further feel free to contact me in game.

Well the nice part about playing stealthless is that I’m used to having essentially all of the same risks on my elementalist, plus a few.
My only cleanse was from healing rain and my water dodge (neither were exactly powerful cleanses), everything else I had to avoid or outheal, so I’m already ahead on cleansing just from shadowstep and sword#2.

Thanks for the warning, though.
P.S. I decided not to go shortbow, because I might accidentally use pistol 5 and then the blast, which would be a tragedy.

Lol, restart your character when that happens. Stealthless builds can use Shadow Refuge, even when just to rez a downed player – it’s part of the job.

frans.8092:

Lol, restart your character when that happens. Stealthless builds can use Shadow Refuge, even when just to rez a downed player – it’s part of the job.

Lies!
After some more hotjoins, I sort of feel like my current build is a somewhat less effective version of my staff ele in terms of how I end up playing it. Any recommendations on trait setups for s/p/p/p?

There’s a pp thread that has just started

I like the look of that second build…
Thanks!

Please don’t come later whining about Thief being too weak, mmk?

If you’re going with power and using s/p or p/p with caltrops and daggerstorm, try signet of malice instead of withdraw. You can also throw in uncatchable from trickery and get more proc’s off of the SoM. Keep in mind p/p isn’t good for many situations. It has no escape skills (can’t port, or stealth, or evade) and doesn’t even hit all that hard. But try it if you want, and welcome to the guild! Feel free to steal a seat next to us, and keep your ear open for the wonderful stories some of us share!

Axelwarrior.9084:

Please don’t come later whining about Thief being too weak, mmk?

Heh, I’m literally setting out to play the class with multiple handicaps. Don’t think you’ll catch me complaining.

@Ninja, thanks for the advice. I’ll try it out.

S/D acro is a really fun non-stealth build. Try it out.