Guild Wars 2

Seriously guys. I try to stay out of the forums after a patch because i know there will be QQ incoming about every little thing, but this time Thief overall got some pretty cool changes.

I understand LS got nerfed a little but S/D is still pretty much just as strong as it was before. S/P might have been indirectly nerfed a bit too but let’s be honest, in a pvp environment it wasn’t exactly a really competative spec anyways. (Here comes all the “omg I’m so pro with S/P!” responses)

Any build that uses blinding powder got buffed. Any build with points into SA got buffed. Shadow trap, while getting a longer cast time on Destroy Shadow Trap now gives regen. P/P #2 got buffed. Venoms got buffed, and they FINALLY FIXED WITHDRAW.

So let’s hear the good things. Thief is not dead (rolls eyes) and I actually feel a tad bit stronger. Personally i play d/p with S/D weapon swap and i am pretty stoked about these changes, specifically the ones to meld in shadows. (Here comes all the “omg you permastealth noob” responses)

So just settle down, take a breath, and play your Thief, because in a week or 2 you are going to sit back and realize it really wasn’t that big a deal. (This goes to pretty much every patch past, present, and possibly future.)

I agree with you on the “stop crying” part.
But not with the “pretty cool changes” you are talking about.
We should talk about what should be changed to help the class without crying

regen on shadow trap wont do much because with 1.5s channeling no one would take it.

Venoms didnt get buffed. Its the venom share range that got buffed… the venoms are still as weak as before.

The “buffs” as you call them dont really change anything big for thief while the nerfs hit right where the thieves where good.

Heizero.9183:

S/P might have been indirectly nerfed a bit too but let’s be honest, in a pvp environment it wasn’t exactly a really competative spec anyways.

If you don’t think it was competitive before the patch, why wouldn’t people be upset if it was made even weaker?

The only two things worth complaining about are the 1.5s cast time of Destroy Shadow Trap when it’s supposed to be a stunbreaker (LOL) and the indirect nerf that killed Pistol Whip that looks like more of an oversight than an intended change.

It wasn’t popular, but S/P was viable pre-patch, regardless of what you may think.

crouze.3078:

I agree with you on the “stop crying” part.
But not with the “pretty cool changes” you are talking about.
We should talk about what should be changed to help the class without crying

regen on shadow trap wont do much because with 1.5s channeling no one would take it.

Venoms didnt get buffed. Its the venom share range that got buffed… the venoms are still as weak as before.

The “buffs” as you call them dont really change anything big for thief while the nerfs hit right where the thieves where good.

I agree with the 1.5 sec cast time on Shadow Trap, it is the only issue I’m worried about, but I’m going to play with it first since it is one of my main slots for alot of tourny maps. It might be a big nerf, it might not be.

Hi, I know this might be a little bit off-topic, but is it really worth it to start a thief now? I’m pretty new to this game (lvl 60 warrior in about a week), and i just decided to start a new thief. At the same time as I’m looking for hints and guidelines at the forum, I can’t help but see a lot of negativity towards the new changes to the thief, like people saying they won’t play them until they’re getting buffed again. So yeah, are there still any strong builds for thief? Is it worth it to start a thief now, or should I go for an other profession?

Krayzic.4860:

Hi, I know this might be a little bit off-topic, but is it really worth it to start a thief now? I’m pretty new to this game (lvl 60 warrior in about a week), and i just decided to start a new thief. At the same time as I’m looking for hints and guidelines at the forum, I can’t help but see a lot of negativity towards the new changes to the thief, like people saying they won’t play them until they’re getting buffed again. So yeah, are there still any strong builds for thief? Is it worth it to start a thief now, or should I go for an other profession?

if you want to cry every “balance” patch, go thief
want and OP class, steamrolling and face rolling ? go warrior/guardian/mesmer etc. the popular choices

I still see improvisation in Deadly arts and that is one trait that bugs the kitten out of me. Why? Because its cool in theory, useless in reality. that 10% damage when wielding a “non stolen” item bundle is really kitten bad since in pvp /wvw, there are no bundles to use lying around that damages our opponents.

Honestly, overall this patch is good and the game goes in the right way with many things. Every class seem to be crying about being nerfed atm though, and crying about how the other classes got buffed and them being the black sheep, It’s quite adorable.

Currently I play S/D, and I’m quite fine with the nerf on Larcenous Strike, when you needed a lot of boonrip it wasn’t enough anyways, and when you needed just a bit it was way too much and cheap.

I however think Bountiful Theft should steal and share 3 boons to compensate this nerf, also as Anet once meantioned, they want to improve thieves on the sharing and team-play part.

The buff to venomsharing was good, but still venom playstyles need to be improved more. 2 might per venom(utility slot even !) is very little, when engineers and elementalists can put out a fire field and blow up stuff for 12 might stacks for instance. And venoms need secondary effects, condition cleanse or something, medical use of venoms, huhu, cuz using a whole traitline dedicated to something you just can have in utility slots, pretty much forces you to use all the utilities of that specific type, otherwise it wouldn’t simply be worthwhile. And in thieves case, these utilities are just conditions that can be applied to enemies (and some trait related things like lifesteal).

S/P needs to be improved too, either increase Pistolwhips stun or damage, or unroot it.
And possibly adding a strong final blow to make it more worthwhile to finish the whole animation on the opponent, making venoms, steal or other things that will let you reach your opponent more useful.

Many other traits in the thiefs traitlines also needs to be overlooked and be found ways to be improved as well.

Krayzic.4860:

Hi, I know this might be a little bit off-topic, but is it really worth it to start a thief now? I’m pretty new to this game (lvl 60 warrior in about a week), and i just decided to start a new thief. At the same time as I’m looking for hints and guidelines at the forum, I can’t help but see a lot of negativity towards the new changes to the thief, like people saying they won’t play them until they’re getting buffed again. So yeah, are there still any strong builds for thief? Is it worth it to start a thief now, or should I go for an other profession?

Thieves are just fine for now, if you are interested in one, make one.
Otherwise it’s also good to learn since you’ll be fighting them a lot anyways.

But we can’t know what evil plans Anet has for thieves the coming weeks and months.

Krayzic.4860:

Hi, I know this might be a little bit off-topic, but is it really worth it to start a thief now? I’m pretty new to this game (lvl 60 warrior in about a week), and i just decided to start a new thief. At the same time as I’m looking for hints and guidelines at the forum, I can’t help but see a lot of negativity towards the new changes to the thief, like people saying they won’t play them until they’re getting buffed again. So yeah, are there still any strong builds for thief? Is it worth it to start a thief now, or should I go for an other profession?

It’s just the regular post-patch QQ, you see it in every forum for a week or so after every patch. The Thief profession is still perfectly viable and, in my opinion, the most enjoyable profession to play.

Roll one, you won’t regret it.

Incurafy.6329:

Krayzic.4860:

Hi, I know this might be a little bit off-topic, but is it really worth it to start a thief now? I’m pretty new to this game (lvl 60 warrior in about a week), and i just decided to start a new thief. At the same time as I’m looking for hints and guidelines at the forum, I can’t help but see a lot of negativity towards the new changes to the thief, like people saying they won’t play them until they’re getting buffed again. So yeah, are there still any strong builds for thief? Is it worth it to start a thief now, or should I go for an other profession?

It’s just the regular post-patch QQ, you see it in every forum for a week or so after every patch. The Thief profession is still perfectly viable and, in my opinion, the most enjoyable profession to play.

Roll one, you won’t regret it.

Pretty much what he said. I really only play Thief, and i really only care to play Thief. 2300 hours on mine and still love it.

Ya thief is perfect in any sense.
My only regret is that weapon set i mastered got unintentionally nerfed to the ground. This is sad.

I’m tired of saying “At least we don’t have it as bad as the Rangers.”

All this nerfing because some WwW invaders got ganked too quickly…
Just make WwW the same as PvP where everyone is equal and whatnot, and leave my precious PvE alone!

thieves will be pushed out of the pvp meta by DPS Guardians soon or later, trust it or not.
The main problem is not if the thief class is balanced but that there are other OP classes that are taking our spot in a team.
I for one prefer using a warrior for control or a guardian dps as dpsser right now, I feel like I can accomplish the same if not more damage output while giving more team support to my team.
I know many people will disagree with me but give it time for this meta to stabilize a bit and let’s see if thieves will still be used that much in tPvP.
PS: my personal idea is that the thief is still in a good spot, even with the LS and stealth nerf but there is the need to shave some other classes that received undeserved buffs

Krayzic.4860:

Hi, I know this might be a little bit off-topic, but is it really worth it to start a thief now? I’m pretty new to this game (lvl 60 warrior in about a week), and i just decided to start a new thief. At the same time as I’m looking for hints and guidelines at the forum, I can’t help but see a lot of negativity towards the new changes to the thief, like people saying they won’t play them until they’re getting buffed again. So yeah, are there still any strong builds for thief? Is it worth it to start a thief now, or should I go for an other profession?

yes thief is By Far the most “Balanced” class in the game

it has ultimate DPS mobility the ability to reset battles at any time Versatility and mainly its 98% un-counterable

if you like 1-3 key instant kills then theif is for you

Rezzet.3614:

Krayzic.4860:

Hi, I know this might be a little bit off-topic, but is it really worth it to start a thief now? I’m pretty new to this game (lvl 60 warrior in about a week), and i just decided to start a new thief. At the same time as I’m looking for hints and guidelines at the forum, I can’t help but see a lot of negativity towards the new changes to the thief, like people saying they won’t play them until they’re getting buffed again. So yeah, are there still any strong builds for thief? Is it worth it to start a thief now, or should I go for an other profession?

yes thief is By Far the most broken class in the game

it has ultimate DPS mobility the ability to reset battles at any time Versatility and mainly its 98% un-counterable

if you like 1-3 key instant kills then theif is for you

This person doesn’t play a thief.

But he is almost right. After warrior thief is still the most versatile and preferable class for wvw. It’s easy to master, it has enough skills to reset or escape a fight and deals enough damage to win the 1v1. It’s still not number 1 in zerg fights but playable.

Rezzet.3614:

Krayzic.4860:

Hi, I know this might be a little bit off-topic, but is it really worth it to start a thief now? I’m pretty new to this game (lvl 60 warrior in about a week), and i just decided to start a new thief. At the same time as I’m looking for hints and guidelines at the forum, I can’t help but see a lot of negativity towards the new changes to the thief, like people saying they won’t play them until they’re getting buffed again. So yeah, are there still any strong builds for thief? Is it worth it to start a thief now, or should I go for an other profession?

yes thief is By Far the most “Balanced” class in the game

it has ultimate DPS mobility the ability to reset battles at any time Versatility and mainly its 98% un-counterable

if you like 1-3 key instant kills then theif is for you

I like to give people the benefit of the doubt and say this person is obviously being sarcastic

I enjoy playing my thief, so I don’t get the fuss. Then again, I don’t rely on perma stealth, so the nerfs don’t affect me.

Thief is a lot of fun and it can do everything in the game well once you learn how to protect yourself. It is the only profession I really put any time into anymore. The nerfs are ridiculous but I’ll play until it isn’t fun then I’ll move on to other games.

Sanduskel.1850:

I enjoy playing my thief, so I don’t get the fuss. Then again, I don’t rely on perma stealth, so the nerfs don’t affect me.

So what build do you play?

Maugetarr.6823:

Sanduskel.1850:

I enjoy playing my thief, so I don’t get the fuss. Then again, I don’t rely on perma stealth, so the nerfs don’t affect me.

So what build do you play?

Warrior.

Stopped reading at the “I try to stay out of the forums after a patch, BUT…” part.

You TRY to stay out of the forums? What happened? You tripped and fell on your keyboard and landed here with a bunch of scathing remarks about how we shouldn’t comment on our own class balance? You TRIED to resist, but you just HAPPENED to type all of that up?

Gotta watch those banana peels man.

gebrechen.5643:

But he is almost right. After warrior thief is still the most versatile and preferable class for wvw. It’s easy to master, it has enough skills to reset or escape a fight and deals enough damage to win the 1v1. It’s still not number 1 in zerg fights but playable.

No. Everything you’ve said is based on popular belief.

Sanduskel.1850:

I enjoy playing my thief, so I don’t get the fuss. Then again, I don’t rely on perma stealth, so the nerfs don’t affect me.

I think you don’t even play a thief, since permastealth is perfectly viable now as it was before.
Sick ’em can be annoying but rangers still are easy targets.

You are spamming this boards saying that you don’t rely on stealth and who does isn’t a “decent thief”. You are becoming quite annoying too. If you want to be constructive, pls, share your knowledge and show us your build or your playstyle.
If you want to keep it secret, than you can stop posting, since you are not constructive and we got it: “you don’t rely on perma stealth”.

gebrechen.5643:

But he is almost right. After warrior thief is still the most versatile and preferable class for wvw. It’s easy to master, it has enough skills to reset or escape a fight and deals enough damage to win the 1v1. It’s still not number 1 in zerg fights but playable.

keyword AFTER WARRIOR.

it’s completely ridonculous. Warrior is best in PvE, awesome/godlike in WvW, and now it’s also good in sPvP/tPvP AND roaming.

We have been REPLACED. My worst fear came true (I don’t QQ for no reason).

Good thing I don’t really play this **** game anymore, or at least thief gets some more buffs to even things out….Current state of the game is complete ****.

Daendur.2357:

Sanduskel.1850:

I enjoy playing my thief, so I don’t get the fuss. Then again, I don’t rely on perma stealth, so the nerfs don’t affect me.

I think you don’t even play a thief, since permastealth is perfectly viable now as it was before.
Sick ’em can be annoying but rangers still are easy targets.

You are spamming this boards saying that you don’t rely on stealth and who does isn’t a “decent thief”. You are becoming quite annoying too. If you want to be constructive, pls, share your knowledge and show us your build or your playstyle.
If you want to keep it secret, than you can stop posting, since you are not constructive and we got it: “you don’t rely on perma stealth”.

ya especially since S/D and S/P were BOTH nerfed in the last patch.

I think I have a right to complain.

I’ve played the thief since I started this game. I’ve theorycrafted and mathed the kitten out of every trait and every skill we have. I’ve racked up 1.2k+ hours on my thief and only spent 2% of those hours messing around in LA. I feel like I have mastered this profession because there is nothing else for me to learn.

I also feel like I have the right to call out stubborn scrubs when they post something ignorant (because they need it) in regards to this profession. However, I just recently got a 1.5 day suspension from the forums for doing that a bit too much. So now instead of arguing I am just going to let this class die because I only see overhaul/deletion in its future.

I’ve moved onto warrior and am enjoying the ability to easily kill things 7 levels above me.

Excalibur.9748:

gebrechen.5643:

But he is almost right. After warrior thief is still the most versatile and preferable class for wvw. It’s easy to master, it has enough skills to reset or escape a fight and deals enough damage to win the 1v1. It’s still not number 1 in zerg fights but playable.

keyword AFTER WARRIOR.

it’s completely ridonculous. Warrior is best in PvE, awesome/godlike in WvW, and now it’s also good in sPvP/tPvP AND roaming.

We have been REPLACED. My worst fear came true (I don’t QQ for no reason).

Good thing I don’t really play this **** game anymore, or at least thief gets some more buffs to even things out….Current state of the game is complete ****.

did i mention that thiefs are still OP ?
where ? …. backstab and heartseeker spam ! i am getting killed by invisible people too !
they are teleporting ! they are taking my boons, please nerf ! PW is too stong !
list continues
a bird told me that BS will get a bit of nerf (under the name BUG FIX =) )

Did I have any issues doing whatever I wanted to do on my thief before? No. Do I have any issues now? No. Will I ever have any issues? No. I don’t understand how this is such a big deal to so many people. If little changes like this impact your play that much, maybe you should think about rerolling or just not even play this game. If half of you spent as much time actually focusing on bettering your play instead of worrying about every little change, maybe you would still be fine. If you play so linear that you can’t adapt, you probably won’t get any better no matter what they change.

It doesn’t matter what class you are on, or what build you want to play. The playerbase of this game isn’t exactly above average. So if you know how to play, you are going to win. I honestly love changes. Not even just for my main class, but all of the others as well. I love the fact that I can spend a few minutes reading the patch notes for all the other classes and know what I need to adapt to. Why don’t more people have that mindset? If you want to walk around destroying people learn how to do it, don’t just cry because one spec or a few skills took a hit. This is a MMO, it’s going to happen. With a little bit of effort, though, you will still succeed at your class whether we are buffed or nerfed into the ground.

Putting a little thought and time into something goes a long way. Oh and one more thing, if none of yall have realized the buff to blinding powder, try Black Powder – Blinding Powder – Cluster – Cluster – Cluster. Just like that, 13s of area stealth just from you.

NeroGuilt.4720:

Did I have any issues doing whatever I wanted to do on my thief before? No. Do I have any issues now? No. Will I ever have any issues? No. I don’t understand how this is such a big deal to so many people. If little changes like this impact your play that much, maybe you should think about rerolling or just not even play this game. If half of you spent as much time actually focusing on bettering your play instead of worrying about every little change, maybe you would still be fine. If you play so linear that you can’t adapt, you probably won’t get any better no matter what they change.

It doesn’t matter what class you are on, or what build you want to play. The playerbase of this game isn’t exactly above average. So if you know how to play, you are going to win. I honestly love changes. Not even just for my main class, but all of the others as well. I love the fact that I can spend a few minutes reading the patch notes for all the other classes and know what I need to adapt to. Why don’t more people have that mindset? If you want to walk around destroying people learn how to do it, don’t just cry because one spec or a few skills took a hit. This is a MMO, it’s going to happen. With a little bit of effort, though, you will still succeed at your class whether we are buffed or nerfed into the ground.

Putting a little thought and time into something goes a long way. Oh and one more thing, if none of yall have realized the buff to blinding powder, try Black Powder – Blinding Powder – Cluster – Cluster – Cluster. Just like that, 13s of area stealth just from you.

the funny thing is that you never did 1 tourney, neither Team nor Solo, and still you’re arguing that you can kill everything. I guess you’re point of view is based on pve only (I consider WvW still PvE).

We survived the Revealed thing. We’ll survive everything else.

Because, thieves.

NeroGuilt.4720:

stuff

It isn’t about destroying stuff. Its about having fun and right now thief players are not having fun. Every patch, the fun gets lessened or changed while the very unfun parts of this profession are not fixed.

This is why thieves are complaining.

I am having plenty of fun on my thief. Then again, I don’t need permastealth.

Sanduskel.1850:

I am having plenty of fun on my thief. Then again, I don’t need permastealth.

I think anyone that reads this forum regularly knows by now that Sanduskel doesn’t need or use permastealth.

Fade.7658:

Sanduskel.1850:

I am having plenty of fun on my thief. Then again, I don’t need permastealth.

I think anyone that reads this forum regularly knows by now that Sanduskel doesn’t need or use permastealth.

Twice in this very same thread too, right on!

Sanduskel.1850:

I am having plenty of fun on my thief. Then again, I don’t need permastealth.

You don’t play thief.

Zacchary.6183:

Sanduskel.1850:

I am having plenty of fun on my thief. Then again, I don’t need permastealth.

You don’t play thief.

So following you’re logic a perma stealth thief is the only way if you want to have fun? I play a s/p, sb thief and I’m having fun with it in wvw.

nagymbear.5280:

Zacchary.6183:

Sanduskel.1850:

I am having plenty of fun on my thief. Then again, I don’t need permastealth.

You don’t play thief.

So following you’re logic a perma stealth thief is the only way if you want to have fun? I play a s/p, sb thief and I’m having fun with it in wvw.

Where did you get that from? Seriously…

Zacchary.6183:

Sanduskel.1850:

I am having plenty of fun on my thief. Then again, I don’t need permastealth.

You don’t play thief.

^

So, by pointing out my belief that he has never played the thief and doesn’t know what he is talking about I am also saying that permastealth is the only way to have fun….

This is the exact reason people get trolled on thief forums.

I don’t play a permastealth thief, no.

So your “reply” was just stating your oppinion with no logic connection to what he said…. hmmm. I will learn from you master.

/bow

Zacchary.6183:

So, by pointing out my belief that he has never played the thief and doesn’t know what he is talking about I am also saying that permastealth is the only way to have fun….

This is the exact reason people get trolled on thief forums.

Nonsense, I never had trouble against thieves on my ranger!

Kolly.9872:

NeroGuilt.4720:

Did I have any issues doing whatever I wanted to do on my thief before? No. Do I have any issues now? No. Will I ever have any issues? No. I don’t understand how this is such a big deal to so many people. If little changes like this impact your play that much, maybe you should think about rerolling or just not even play this game. If half of you spent as much time actually focusing on bettering your play instead of worrying about every little change, maybe you would still be fine. If you play so linear that you can’t adapt, you probably won’t get any better no matter what they change.

It doesn’t matter what class you are on, or what build you want to play. The playerbase of this game isn’t exactly above average. So if you know how to play, you are going to win. I honestly love changes. Not even just for my main class, but all of the others as well. I love the fact that I can spend a few minutes reading the patch notes for all the other classes and know what I need to adapt to. Why don’t more people have that mindset? If you want to walk around destroying people learn how to do it, don’t just cry because one spec or a few skills took a hit. This is a MMO, it’s going to happen. With a little bit of effort, though, you will still succeed at your class whether we are buffed or nerfed into the ground.

Putting a little thought and time into something goes a long way. Oh and one more thing, if none of yall have realized the buff to blinding powder, try Black Powder – Blinding Powder – Cluster – Cluster – Cluster. Just like that, 13s of area stealth just from you.

the funny thing is that you never did 1 tourney, neither Team nor Solo, and still you’re arguing that you can kill everything. I guess you’re point of view is based on pve only (I consider WvW still PvE).

Oh sorry, how dare me. I must not know anything, because I don’t do tournaments. Add something like an arena Gladiator title, that takes more than just playing a lot of tpvp to obtain, and i’ll actually bother. Until then, I could care less. But that’s right, my opinion is invalid. All that matterz is tpvp lawlz, kitten wvwz.

nagymbear.5280:

Zacchary.6183:

Sanduskel.1850:

I am having plenty of fun on my thief. Then again, I don’t need permastealth.

You don’t play thief.

^

Zacchary probably came to that conclusion the same way I did when sansuskel always brings up permastealth thieves when taljing about builds thatbhave nothing to do with it. When asked about what builds he does play since he insists that his builds weren’t affected whatsoever he has abandoned the threads. He has also made flat out false statements on how stealth attacks operate and also abandoned the thread when asked to demonstrate what could only be characterised as a bug based on his description. Furthermore his earliest posts only started during the balance patch preview to say that he welcomed the changes to make his 5 thief alts more challenging. Most (if not all) of his posts are not constructive and serve only to say what scrubs thieves who don’t use his build are. Read through our forum during the past month or so and you’ll see.

Edit: Meant to quote this one but messed up on my phone “So your “reply” was just stating your oppinion with no logic connection to what he said…. hmmm. I will learn from you master.” Sorry.

Maugetarr.6823:

nagymbear.5280:

Zacchary.6183:

Sanduskel.1850:

I am having plenty of fun on my thief. Then again, I don’t need permastealth.

You don’t play thief.

^

Zacchary probably came to that conclusion the same way I did when sansuskel always brings up permastealth thieves when taljing about builds thatbhave nothing to do with it. When asked about what builds he does play since he insists that his builds weren’t affected whatsoever he has abandoned the threads. He has also made flat out false statements on how stealth attacks operate and also abandoned the thread when asked to demonstrate what could only be characterised as a bug based on his description. Furthermore his earliest posts only started during the balance patch preview to say that he welcomed the changes to make his 5 thief alts more challenging. Most (if not all) of his posts are not constructive and serve only to say what scrubs thieves who don’t use his build are. Read through our forum during the past month or so and you’ll see.

Edit: Meant to quote this one but messed up on my phone “So your “reply” was just stating your oppinion with no logic connection to what he said…. hmmm. I will learn from you master.” Sorry.

You are just mad that not everyone else shares your victim mentality. Here’s one thief who appreciates the challenges given as a result of hard counters to stealth.

I do read the thief forums occasionally, its almost as depressing as the ranger forums. I don’t get this fixation on what build Sanduskel runs. Is it really that important to prove that he’s suffering from the patch? Sounds pathetic. Also I think what he’s trying to say is that only bad thieves rely too much on stealth. Could have a point there, don’t you think?

nagymbear.5280:

I do read the thief forums occasionally, its almost as depressing as the ranger forums. I don’t get this fixation on what build Sanduskel runs. Is it really that important to prove that he’s suffering from the patch? Sounds pathetic. Also I think what he’s trying to say is that only bad thieves rely too much on stealth. Could have a point there, don’t you think?

Well speaking from the perspective of a thief that played S/D + shortbow before the patch I don’t understand the constant attacks by a supposed other thief. I am interested in what build he played that was not affected. Until then it seems more like trolling than anything else. Ironically and predictably permastealth was least affected by the changes this time. The point is not to prove that he is suffering, the point is that I simply don’t believe him because of the inconsistencies and attitude taken in posts he has made.

NeroGuilt.4720:

Kolly.9872:

NeroGuilt.4720:

Did I have any issues doing whatever I wanted to do on my thief before? No. Do I have any issues now? No. Will I ever have any issues? No. I don’t understand how this is such a big deal to so many people. If little changes like this impact your play that much, maybe you should think about rerolling or just not even play this game. If half of you spent as much time actually focusing on bettering your play instead of worrying about every little change, maybe you would still be fine. If you play so linear that you can’t adapt, you probably won’t get any better no matter what they change.

It doesn’t matter what class you are on, or what build you want to play. The playerbase of this game isn’t exactly above average. So if you know how to play, you are going to win. I honestly love changes. Not even just for my main class, but all of the others as well. I love the fact that I can spend a few minutes reading the patch notes for all the other classes and know what I need to adapt to. Why don’t more people have that mindset? If you want to walk around destroying people learn how to do it, don’t just cry because one spec or a few skills took a hit. This is a MMO, it’s going to happen. With a little bit of effort, though, you will still succeed at your class whether we are buffed or nerfed into the ground.

Putting a little thought and time into something goes a long way. Oh and one more thing, if none of yall have realized the buff to blinding powder, try Black Powder – Blinding Powder – Cluster – Cluster – Cluster. Just like that, 13s of area stealth just from you.

the funny thing is that you never did 1 tourney, neither Team nor Solo, and still you’re arguing that you can kill everything. I guess you’re point of view is based on pve only (I consider WvW still PvE).

Oh sorry, how dare me. I must not know anything, because I don’t do tournaments. Add something like an arena Gladiator title, that takes more than just playing a lot of tpvp to obtain, and i’ll actually bother. Until then, I could care less. But that’s right, my opinion is invalid. All that matterz is tpvp lawlz, kitten wvwz.

oh finally you understood my point. Now go to play your pve again and let pvpers discussing about pvp balance.
I realy don’t care if you can kill some underlevelled scrubs in WvW while wearing OP gears and foods.
Show me how the thief is better than any other class in the current meta (that didn’t change at all with the last patch and now it’s even worst for thieves).
I can definitely show you how guardians dps, warriors, mesmers and even those UP eles are better than thieves in almost every role required in tPvP, where everyone fights on the same level and where balance should realy matters. When I say that thieves are in a bad spot I’m talking about this, we are being pushed out of the meta cos every other class can support the team much better than us and still people are crying that thieves are OP just because they died to thieves in WvW while wearing green gears. I don’t want to be mean nor superior to anyone but A-Net should understand that the balance should not be based on WvW